Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - 1.6.0 update!

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DanielPL
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26 posts since 30 Apr, 2020 from Poland

Post Wed Aug 19, 2020 2:34 pm

Tendou wrote:
Wed Aug 19, 2020 12:24 pm
Every fckng time when Ableton crashes and Avenger is loaded on a fckng deactived channel or somehow on the project even its just on the fckng template the plugin cant be used anymore bc the fckng GUI wont load up with "Error plugin instance can't be loaded" and for the only solution to even get it LOADED I have to uninstall the whole piece of crap suite and download it again and install it new - I mean wtf seriously?! It's not like a cheap or something - is it to much to ask to fix this annoying thing? I always told people about the awesome sound quality and the dope ass preset packs to buy but SERIOUSLY my patience with this garbage coded sh*t is coming to an end -.-

edit:// sorry for my emotional breakout... anyone got a better solution for this issue? :?
Have you tried to find cause for crashing Ableton? After such crash maybe you could move Avenger dll plugin file from your VSTs location, rescan with Ableton, move it back and rescan once again.
Ableton has log file, review it and if you suspect Avenger just drop email to Vengeance support team.
Live's log file can be found here:

Windows - \Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming\Ableton\Live x.x.x\Preferences\Log.txt
Mac - /Users/[username]/Library/Preferences/Ableton/Live x.x.x/Log.txt
Ableton - Where to find Crash Reports

Tendou
KVRist
251 posts since 10 Mar, 2020

Post Wed Aug 19, 2020 3:48 pm

well thx for trying but its not avengers fault crashing ableton, its just that avenger becomes useless when ableton crashes for whatever reason bc the plugin/gui wont load anymore when it was somewhere even not in use on the project and to make it work again even on a completly new project I have to reinstall avenger completly

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zvenx
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8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:18 am

I really keep hoping further optimisation can be done with Avenger with its real time playing, with low latencies.
I have almost all the heavy hitters (except Falcon), and none even come close this load that Avenger has whilst playing the instrument...

In Both Cubase and Studio one, the Average use seems normal, but it is the real time/cpu that is always peaking.

This is me holding down one note.


Of course after I record the note and disable monitoring (asio-guard only)
it is fine. That disparity is larger than any other instrument on my system.

rsp
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zvenx
KVRAF
8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:40 am

And same patch, PC, Nuendo....
same issue.
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sircuit
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759 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:29 am

Part is also Cubendo’s fault. Their method of distributing the load over multiple cpu core is thrash. I often have 2 cores chocked to death (and playback glitches! while the other 14 just sit at 20% load. Similar project in Ablelton Live just works (and Live doesnr have any asio guard). Try a demo of live, you may be surprised

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zvenx
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8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:30 am

Except studio one also does it and no other plugin. I literally just went thru all my vsti's does it.
rsp
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zvenx
KVRAF
8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:31 am

sircuit wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:29 am
Part is also Cubendo’s fault. Their method of distributing the load over multiple cpu core is thrash. I often have 2 cores chocked to death (and playback glitches! while the other 14 just sit at 20% load. Similar project in Ablelton Live just works (and Live doesnr have any asio guard). Try a demo of live, you may be surprised
like which plug in so I can try to replicate.
rsp
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zvenx
KVRAF
8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:32 am

zvenx wrote:
Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:36 pm
Screen Shot 2020-08-15 at 8.33.19 PM.jpgPlease forgive me if this is a stupid question and has been asked tons of times before,
but I have always been curious why the green led's to the left of each layer isn't programmed to turn on and off each layer (instead of a mute for instance)

(Kind of like how Rapid and Omnisphere and probably others do it.)

rsp
I am wondering if this was implemented so you could at least turn off a layer if that wouldn't help resources.
Is there a way to not mute but turn off a layer so it no longer uses resources?
rsp
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zvenx
KVRAF
8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:02 am

The scientist in me of course, made me run a simple test on my Mac, 4 physical cores macbook pro which translates to 8 virtual core, running 10.14.6.

Cubase 10.5.20, choose a pad that uses a lot of cpu in various Synths and played four notes on them and take a screen shot of CPU Usage using Apple's Activity Monitor.

I don't see in any of the synths I use where it is not spreading the load.

I used Avenger, Bazille, Diva, Omnipshere, Rapid and Repro 5.

rsp
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sircuit
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759 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:29 am

zvenx wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:31 am
sircuit wrote:
Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:29 am
Part is also Cubendo’s fault. Their method of distributing the load over multiple cpu core is thrash. I often have 2 cores chocked to death (and playback glitches! while the other 14 just sit at 20% load. Similar project in Ablelton Live just works (and Live doesnr have any asio guard). Try a demo of live, you may be surprised
like which plug in so I can try to replicate.
rsp
Too many cases to isolate the issue to certain plugins. I can get away in ableton live with same projects that kill cubase 10.0

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zvenx
KVRAF
8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:41 am

I am not a fan of live at all so I can't testify to its behaviour, but I just tried pulling up a few cpu intensive older projects in Cubase and I did not see one instance of where one core was unequally utilized. Load was spread over the Cores.

https://transverseaudio.com/tip/what-da ... -least-cpu


rsp
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5Lives
KVRian
571 posts since 10 Nov, 2005 from New York City

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 3:18 pm

Anybody know how to fully remove CodeMeter on a Mac? Managed to sell my Avenger license thankfully and want to get rid of CM (nothing else I know of uses it - strange choice for Avenger IMO).

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zvenx
KVRAF
8654 posts since 16 Feb, 2005 from Kingston, Jamaica

Post Sun Aug 23, 2020 4:36 pm

I usually use EasyFind and AppCleaner to remove all my mac stuff.
AppCleaner starts it off if it is an app you are trying to delete it finds some of the auxiliary files and asks you if you want to delete those too.
Then I use Easyfind to search my harddrive for files of the app name and the manufacturer name and then delete those too.
rsp
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Tendou
KVRist
251 posts since 10 Mar, 2020

Post Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:30 am

Do does anyone know for certain if you can resell a 2nd hand lisence of Avenger and what they need for it? I tried to ask in an Email but I just got a premade answer where just a regular resale is covered...

pizzatime
KVRist
52 posts since 4 May, 2020

Post Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:35 am

Don't think you can sell secondhand license.

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