Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.4.0 update with new features

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jasonwoodman
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30 posts since 10 Mar, 2015 from UK

Post Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:00 am

Assuming you get a 4K monitor that's big enough, the higher resolution is like adding a second monitor, thus increasing your screen real estate (meaning you can fit more things on screen). This is still true with smaller 4K monitors, but too small and the additional real estate is useless.
Ahh thought that was the case.

I use two monitors and can't really see the 4k being any more beneficial over it.
But, we all work differently ;)

Warehouseparty
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114 posts since 10 Dec, 2016 from Germany

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Post Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:42 am

msvs wrote:for example
Nexus (on PC) on the backside

this is just a normal zoom, you should set it to 200% for maximum sharpness
Thx for mentioning! Have not been aware of this option.

Actually I decided I will stick with 4k and 100% - everything is really tiny, but I can't stand blurry GUIs next to 4k sharpness. Not only Nexus but all the other VSTs as well. Went for 100% on Avenger too. If everything is tiny your eyes get used to it.

Mainly I'm going for the 4k because of office applications (Office, SAP and stuff - changing 24" HD to 28" 4k: the amount of space is just fabolous!). For music production only I would stick with HD I guess.
WIN10 / FL Studio 12.4
Intel Core i7 3770 @ 3.40 GHz / 12 GB DDR3 RAM / AMD Radeon HD 7770 GHz / 2 GB RAM / 28" 4k screen

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msvs
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1214 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Wed Dec 06, 2017 11:57 am

What's the attraction for a 4k monitor? I mean I get it if you're doing graphics in like Maya, but I don't understand what use it has in an audio based studio.

Just curious, in case I'm missing out on something :)
are you joking? :)
Space!!!! you have room for your mixer, your arrangement window, tons of tracks, open VSTs etc
on a FullHD you are constantly moving things away from the sight.
Went for 100% on Avenger too
you should try 120% or even 130% (I work on 120%)
Avenger stays sharp since its vector based

Warehouseparty
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114 posts since 10 Dec, 2016 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:08 pm

msvs wrote:you should try 120% or even 130% (I work on 120%)
Avenger stays sharp since its vector based
You are right - but since all the other plugins won't and my eyes don't like to switch from big GUIs (Avenger) to smaller ones (mainly all of my other plugins) and I use 100% for Windows as well, I stick with the 100%. Fortunately my eyes are working quite well. :)
WIN10 / FL Studio 12.4
Intel Core i7 3770 @ 3.40 GHz / 12 GB DDR3 RAM / AMD Radeon HD 7770 GHz / 2 GB RAM / 28" 4k screen

100tifiko
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138 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:56 am

You know what would be awesome to route the chorder to the effect section separate from osc1. Or to change the waveform from the chorder using the xcite or the format creating a thick layer for a huge harmonic supersaw :) :phones:

100tifiko
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138 posts since 28 Jun, 2017

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:04 am

this would save you from using another osc and adding different distortion for harmonics or using the xcite or format helping you save CPU usage in a way

Mirko R.
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150 posts since 8 Oct, 2016 from Hagen | Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:37 am

In this video I will show you some of the presets of my very first expansion for the monster synth "VPS Avenger" called:

--- TROPICAL HOUSE ---

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwlsXVDhAHw

Greetz
Mirko R.

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hvyen
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113 posts since 15 Sep, 2008 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:58 am

Hi Mirko!
Well done! The demo is already great. I will check out the video tonight.
Greets,
Marcel

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Sampleconstruct
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14212 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:08 am

Something a little dark and abstract:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB2KpuOdxO4

mynet
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27 posts since 5 Oct, 2012

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:10 am

Most expansions don't have "professional" sound design. It sounds like any other B class synth out there?
When this is the number 1 synth out there imo!
It's like level 5 of 10. Where is all the pro designers??

Bitcrush on 30-50% of the sounds? When is this 8bit harsh "digital" treble going away? I'm after the opposite, smooth and clean analog crispy highs! That's the hard stuff to design. That is one big things that differs between analog and digital. The other thing is the more present and forward mids. And the low end bass/subs is very difficult, haven't heard any preset with that deep fatness, like from the analog world.

From my own "new" experience with sound-design (Long time producer) I've managed to do some really clean digital/analog sounds!

I don't hear the passion/love/work in these sounds? Most of these sounds I can make in "20min". Especially if you use samples, then it's not even Avenger who makes the sound. I wanna be like, how the F_ _ K did he do that sweet sound???

I hope I can upload some examples soon to see what others think, maybe I'm wrong haha.

Sorry for my harsh critic! To say something positive you have a good ear for melodies, use those melodies for your own productions ;)

Ps. If you see yourself as a professional patch-designer, pls upgrade your monitors so you can hear every detail correct cause this synth has the potential to sound really great!

Sound Engineer/Producer, 35y, Sweden

chk071
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17216 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:18 am

So where can i buy all your popular, successful, and professionally designed sounds, Mr. Sound Engineer/Producer from Sweden?

In the meantime, i'd recommend some research to find out who msvs and SampleConstruct are, might get you a better picture about the "unprofessional" sound design happening here.

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hvyen
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113 posts since 15 Sep, 2008 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:21 am

Hi Simon!
I can well imagine that this xp will be a masterpiece! I‘m already looking forward to it.
Cheers!
Marcel

starflakeprj
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829 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:33 am

mynet wrote:Most expansions don't have "professional" sound design. It sounds like any other B class synth out there?
When this is the number 1 synth out there imo!
It's like level 5 of 10. Where is all the pro designers??

Bitcrush on 30-50% of the sounds? When is this 8bit harsh "digital" treble going away? I'm after the opposite, smooth and clean analog crispy highs! That's the hard stuff to design. That is one big things that differs between analog and digital. The other thing is the more present and forward mids. And the low end bass/subs is very difficult, haven't heard any preset with that deep fatness, like from the analog world.

From my own "new" experience with sound-design (Long time producer) I've managed to do some really clean digital/analog sounds!

I don't hear the passion/love/work in these sounds? Most of these sounds I can make in "20min". Especially if you use samples, then it's not even Avenger who makes the sound. I wanna be like, how the F_ _ K did he do that sweet sound???

I hope I can upload some examples soon to see what others think, maybe I'm wrong haha.

Sorry for my harsh critic! To say something positive you have a good ear for melodies, use those melodies for your own productions ;)

Ps. If you see yourself as a professional patch-designer, pls upgrade your monitors so you can hear every detail correct cause this synth has the potential to sound really great!

Sound Engineer/Producer, 35y, Sweden
You don't have to upload any examples, just paste a link to your showcase.

But we already know you are not a professional sound engineer, nor a professional producer. If you were, you would have been more respectful, sorry.
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hvyen
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113 posts since 15 Sep, 2008 from Germany

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 9:55 am

mynet wrote:Most expansions don't have "professional" sound design. It sounds like any other B class synth out there?
When this is the number 1 synth out there imo!
It's like level 5 of 10. Where is all the pro designers??
...

Sound Engineer/Producer, 35y, Sweden
Do you mean that seriously?

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bmanic
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8039 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.2.6 update with new filter

Post Fri Dec 08, 2017 10:12 am

mynet wrote:Most expansions don't have "professional" sound design. It sounds like any other B class synth out there?
When this is the number 1 synth out there imo!
It's like level 5 of 10. Where is all the pro designers??

Bitcrush on 30-50% of the sounds? When is this 8bit harsh "digital" treble going away? I'm after the opposite, smooth and clean analog crispy highs! That's the hard stuff to design. That is one big things that differs between analog and digital. The other thing is the more present and forward mids. And the low end bass/subs is very difficult, haven't heard any preset with that deep fatness, like from the analog world.

From my own "new" experience with sound-design (Long time producer) I've managed to do some really clean digital/analog sounds!

I don't hear the passion/love/work in these sounds? Most of these sounds I can make in "20min". Especially if you use samples, then it's not even Avenger who makes the sound. I wanna be like, how the F_ _ K did he do that sweet sound???

I hope I can upload some examples soon to see what others think, maybe I'm wrong haha.

Sorry for my harsh critic! To say something positive you have a good ear for melodies, use those melodies for your own productions ;)

Ps. If you see yourself as a professional patch-designer, pls upgrade your monitors so you can hear every detail correct cause this synth has the potential to sound really great!

Sound Engineer/Producer, 35y, Sweden
Talk is cheap. Show us your sounds that you made with Avenger.

Also.. you completely dismissed that all of this is very subjective. What you just described as "desirable" had me rolling my eyes. Why on earth would you get a synth like Avenger only to try to recreate "analog" counterparts? That's just plain stupid and a complete waste of a very flexible synth, in my opinion.

You are of course entitled to your opinion but it may be a good time to give you little mirror so you can see that not the whole world thinks like you (at 35 years old you should have gotten out of that thought phase by now).

/actual professional sound designer, Finland. :hihi:
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