Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

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sircuit
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501 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Post Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:34 am

MasterTuner wrote:I'm importing samples into the Granular and they are not playing back at the right speed.
I've played with the speed dial, grain size, density etc...

What are some good tips to play the sample back at the correct speed?

(btw, the Retro 80s preset pack sounds very interesting!)
A granular engine will never output a clean sound (well, IRCAM granular in Falcon does, but Avenger's implementation is a little bit rudimentary). Load few granular presets from factory and then identify them in browser and preview them (the browser will play them clean). You will hear the difference.
If the same difference is what you hear between your clean loops and the ones played through granular engine, then you're doing it right.

The easyest way to import a sample is to load first a granular sound from factory library (to switch the osc in granular mode) then drag & drop any sounds in the osc window.
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MasterTuner
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20 posts since 30 May, 2018

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:57 am

sircuit wrote:The easyest way to import a sample is to load first a granular sound from factory library (to switch the osc in granular mode) then drag & drop any sounds in the osc window.
Thanks, got it close, but not close enough. When I drag the sample from the Files tab to the OSC, it plays back OK as a sample.
But if I do the same with the Granular OSC, it plays differently.
I tried tweaking the speed, and especially the Grain Size makes a difference, along with Rnd Pos etc. My grain size is 183. Density is right down. Speed set as 1/10 (which seems the closest to the original speed)
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msvs
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1185 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sat Jun 02, 2018 5:57 am

double click on "granular" in the left column opens an empty default granular osc to drop your own samples into it

As said, you can NOT playback a sample inside the granular engine in original quality. It will always be grained

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Norrin_Radd
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119 posts since 3 Jan, 2012

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 4:52 am

Keeping this train rollin, here is a video going through the 8bit Era Expansion. I was actually pretty damn impressed with the level of retro authenticity, and how seamlessly it incorporated with the modern structure and potential of the synth.

I even messed around with using some of the expansion samples in some a preset from the factory presets and ended up spiraled down a nice little rabbit hole.

It's certainly much more SID focused than it is NES focused, but I was happy to see there was at least a few nods directly to the NES. In the end, I think raw ass NES sounds would not have been as well integrated with the modern vibes of the VST, so the funky and thumpin' SID beats and drums really were the better choice. You can tell there was a former Scene musician working on these presets, too. You don't just roll out of bed and put together presets like this otherwise, haha.

Take a listen and try to prove me wrong :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRjlPzXjsA
A heaping dose of outrageously goofy synth tracks, scores and chiptunes.

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EnochLight
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977 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Detroit, MI

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Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:26 am

Norrin_Radd wrote: Take a listen and try to prove me wrong :)

youtube.com/watch?v=FqRjlPzXjsA
Thats uh... that’s like over AN HOUR LONG VIDEO. :o Internet attention span does not allow viewing, sorry. :D :lol:

Jk

Cool video. :party:
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Hanz Meyzer
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799 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:44 am

msvs wrote:I have a Continuum Fingerboard. But I dont think, thats something we should focus on. Sorry
Woa, nice :o Well, I hope someday you will change your mind, IMO this is the nextgen of soundshaping.

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Norrin_Radd
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119 posts since 3 Jan, 2012

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Post Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:17 am

EnochLight wrote:
Norrin_Radd wrote: Take a listen and try to prove me wrong :)

youtube.com/watch?v=FqRjlPzXjsA
Thats uh... that’s like over AN HOUR LONG VIDEO. :o Internet attention span does not allow viewing, sorry. :D :lol:

Jk

Cool video. :party:
Yeah, you should probably just skim through it, haha. I have a problem making short videos... :(
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Hanz Meyzer
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799 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2018 3:43 am

Like your videos, too!

teacue
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519 posts since 22 Jun, 2003 from Germany

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:37 am

Edit: wrong forum
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colibri
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16 posts since 26 Sep, 2013

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:27 pm

Manuel, is there a way to retreive previous versions? 1.3.5 is giving me issues on an older laptop, while the version before (I think it was) was working perfectly...

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msvs
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1185 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2018 8:47 pm

no, but please mail us the "issues" so we can fix it in 1.3.6

colibri
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16 posts since 26 Sep, 2013

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Post Tue Jun 05, 2018 11:53 pm

msvs wrote:no, but please mail us the "issues" so we can fix it in 1.3.6
OK thanks, will contact Rene then...

Joey ten
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11 posts since 2 Dec, 2016

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Wed Jun 06, 2018 10:06 am

Hi,

Since i bought a new mac pro desktop 5.1 6 core High Sierra, my avenger doesn't work anymore.
Never had any problems with it, but now if i load it up in ableton it crashes right away.
Logic doesn't see the plugin in the list and fruity won't load it either.
After 30 mails with support, i got the answer it's a computer problem. But the strange thing is all of my other software just works fine. If it native instruments, serum, fab filter, sound toys etc etc, it works just fine.
So does anyone else had this problem? Maybe i need to change something to my preferences in my computer?
Right now i am thinking to sell all of my vengeance stuff, and thats a lot because i have them all.
If i cannot use it and they can't help me with it then why keep this stuff.
Hope there is some smart person here who knows the key to my problem.
Thanks
Sjoerd

sircuit
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501 posts since 15 Jul, 2016

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Wed Jun 06, 2018 12:50 pm

Google how to see what OpenGL version your mac have.
If is 4.1 check what web drivers (ati/nvidia) are compatible with your mac and try installing them. If you have nvidia, worth installing their cuda driver also.
If your OpenGL version is 3.3, you’re f***ed.
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godly
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786 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER - free 1.3.5 update with new features

Post Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:37 pm

colibri wrote:Manuel, is there a way to retreive previous versions? 1.3.5 is giving me issues on an older laptop, while the version before (I think it was) was working perfectly...
There are some issues with .5 but I'm patient avenger team will fix them.
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