Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

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KVRian
1020 posts since 27 Nov, 2006

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:01 am

Can the licence be installed on a Propellerheads 'ignition key' - which I believe is Codemeter?

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msvs
KVRAF
1532 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:06 am

I think so, would have to ask this

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KVRist
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:06 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:50 am
No one forces anyone. ... If you dont want, just continue using 1.4.10. or sell it.
If v1.4.10 would be the most stable thing on earth I'd agree. Seeing the past of your update history, I disagree.

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dionenoid
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391 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:06 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:50 am
exactly. No one forces anyone. If you want 1.5. you have to use Codemeter. If you dont want, just continue using 1.4.10. or sell it. We cant make everyone happy.
Is the "Online" part only for one-time activation ?
More BPM please

noiseboyuk
KVRAF
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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:07 am

Bonus question Manuel - is it still planned to be able to have two activations per license?
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KVRAF
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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:10 am

with codemeter we can keep the current 3 activations per user. (elicenser would have be 1)
And then the "too many activations" popup will no longer be a problem, since you can manage your machines yourself in Codemeter.

noiseboyuk
KVRAF
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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:18 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:10 am
with codemeter we can keep the current 3 activations per user. (elicenser would have be 1)
And then the "too many activations" popup will no longer be a problem, since you can manage your machines yourself in Codemeter.
Excellent - thanks v much :)
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KVRian
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:41 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:50 am
exactly. No one forces anyone. If you want 1.5. you have to use Codemeter. If you dont want, just continue using 1.4.10. or sell it. We cant make everyone happy.
Will we be able to activate 1.4.10 in the future, say, if we buy a new computer?

I personally will not be updating to 1.5. The very first thing I consider when purchasing new software is the copy protection mechanism, and as great as Avenger is, I would not have bought it new if it was using Codemeter (or iLOK, or some other protection mechanisms that I avoid).

I fully respect the right of the software developer to protect their software, by the means of their choice, but I also have the right to choose to buy software based on my own criteria.

Thanks much for any response.

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dionenoid
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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 6:51 am

And another bonus question : Do future XP's need 1.5 to run, so also need Codemeter ?
More BPM please

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msvs
KVRAF
1532 posts since 18 Apr, 2011

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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:43 am

Will we be able to activate 1.4.10
yes of course
Do future XP's need 1.5 to run
yes, expansions released by us prior 1.5. will base on 1.5. (not speaking for 3rd party developers, they can do whatever they want). We will of course use the new features, like Vintage Filters or Guitar Module

noiseboyuk
KVRAF
2727 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:43 am
We will of course use the new features, like Vintage Filters
Oooh - is that Vintage Filter plural now?!
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KVRian
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:51 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 5:50 am
exactly. No one forces anyone. If you want 1.5. you have to use Codemeter. If you dont want, just continue using 1.4.10. or sell it. We cant make everyone happy.
That's well said. I think you made the best you could do to use a solution that doesn't force anyone to use a dongle.

If some people are unhappy, they can sell their license and go elsewhere, instead of threatening you with lawyers. That's pretty shameful...

plrdmus
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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:57 am

chk071 wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:40 am
1. There is no forced dongle option. Codemeter uses 3 different authorization methods (Vengeance obviously chose 2 of those, online and dongle).
2. Noone is forced to update.

What's with the ill-informed extremism here?
Seems like CodeMeter doesn't work properly on some machines, that's why.

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KVRAF
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Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:35 am

noiseboyuk wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 am
msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:43 am
We will of course use the new features, like Vintage Filters
Oooh - is that Vintage Filter plural now?!
yes its LP/HP/BP/BS and each 12dB and 24dB

noiseboyuk
KVRAF
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Re: Vengeance Producer Suite - AVENGER

Post Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:48 am

msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:35 am
noiseboyuk wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 am
msvs wrote:
Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:43 am
We will of course use the new features, like Vintage Filters
Oooh - is that Vintage Filter plural now?!
yes its LP/HP/BP/BS and each 12dB and 24dB
Very nice :)
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