After unzipping, the DLL date is still old, so not update yet.Chris-S wrote:Has the demo version also been updated?
Synapse Audio Minimoog emulation "The Legend" for VST/AU and RE released!
- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
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- KVRer
- 15 posts since 15 Jun, 2017
New Mod Matrix:
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
Tested it out, MPE addition is nice, but a couple issues:
MPE really needs +/-48 note pitch bend and it is still just 24.
Also, sounds with long releases get affected by other notes that don't overlap. This is very common though with MPE synths. The only ones that don't have this problem (in Bitwig) are Equator, Strobe and Falcon. I have no idea what the specs say about this and why not all instruments have this issue. Kind of a long story to explain.
MPE really needs +/-48 note pitch bend and it is still just 24.
Also, sounds with long releases get affected by other notes that don't overlap. This is very common though with MPE synths. The only ones that don't have this problem (in Bitwig) are Equator, Strobe and Falcon. I have no idea what the specs say about this and why not all instruments have this issue. Kind of a long story to explain.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15959 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
You're doing better than me, I couldn't even get aftertouch working with my Seaboard Rise in Bitwig, although Equator works fine.
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
I wasn’t really interested in The Legend before, but MPE changes everything! A shame about the +/-24 bend range though.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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Echoes in the Attic Echoes in the Attic https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=180417
- KVRAF
- 11054 posts since 12 May, 2008
I never tested pressure as I just demoed really quick. I know that in "Force MPE" mode in bitwig, instruments respond only to channel pressure (per channel), not polyphonic aftertouch. So if the Legend uses Poyphonic aftertouch rather than channel aftertouch, then it won't work correctly.BONES wrote:You're doing better than me, I couldn't even get aftertouch working with my Seaboard Rise in Bitwig, although Equator works fine.
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- KVRist
- 392 posts since 10 Apr, 2010
These changes are welcome but couldn't they be made more flexible? It seems counterintuitive that I can set velocity to reduce volume/close the filter/reduce Env Amp but not the other way round. Surely the opposite would be more natural? Couldn't you put the initial setting in the middle, allowing the user to vary it in both directions? And maybe add more destinations such as resonance/drive etc.?
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15959 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
The the standard way of doing things with these kinds of modulations. You set a maximum volume and all your modulators work to that. Otherwise you'd risk blowing your speakers.
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Richard_Synapse Richard_Synapse https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=245936
- KVRian
- 1136 posts since 20 Dec, 2010
It is channel aftertouch. Since it is tied to a MIDI channel just like the pedal messages or CC74, it should work with all MPE gear. We'll double check though.Echoes in the Attic wrote:I never tested pressure as I just demoed really quick. I know that in "Force MPE" mode in bitwig, instruments respond only to channel pressure (per channel), not polyphonic aftertouch. So if the Legend uses Poyphonic aftertouch rather than channel aftertouch, then it won't work correctly.
Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Hi Richard,
Thanks for the MPE support. I'd love the ability to lock those parameters so preset change doesn't effect them. This way, I could setup Timbre to velocity, aftertouch to Modulation Depth, and Velocity to volume, set the knobs to a depth I'm happy with, and explore presets without having to go back and forth between the front and back panels. Just a thought. Great update!
Thanks for the MPE support. I'd love the ability to lock those parameters so preset change doesn't effect them. This way, I could setup Timbre to velocity, aftertouch to Modulation Depth, and Velocity to volume, set the knobs to a depth I'm happy with, and explore presets without having to go back and forth between the front and back panels. Just a thought. Great update!
- KVRAF
- 3059 posts since 10 Nov, 2013 from Germany
cc74 is now reserved for MPE?
My midi keyboard uses cc74 for the first slider and assigning it to a knob (eg. filter attack) no longer works...
My midi keyboard uses cc74 for the first slider and assigning it to a knob (eg. filter attack) no longer works...
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- KVRAF
- 23102 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
That's a shame. I like using sustain pedal with monophonic lead sounds...