IS FM synthesis your goto?

VST, AU, AAX, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion
User avatar
fmr
KVRAF
9285 posts since 16 Mar, 2003 from Porto - Portugal

Post Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:01 pm

Lotuzia wrote: NI FM8 adds a lot of possibilities. Especially because FM algorithms become totally user configurable. And a few other things. Total freedom is always something to consider.
The SY/TG77 and SY99 also have this total freedom (only accessible via MIDI Sys-Ex) where you could configure the operator at your will (free algorithm).
Fernando (FMR)

Lotuzia
KVRAF
10220 posts since 19 Feb, 2004 from Paris

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:19 pm

Thanks for reminding this ( I also have a TG :oops: ) I remember I made a few sounds with this feature, but I had totally forgotten it ( But then it was on a friend's SY and iirc he also had a PC editor that helped)
http://www.lelotusbleu.fr Synth Presets

77 Exclusive Soundbanks for 23 synths, 8 Sound Designers, Hours of audio Demos. The Sound you miss might be there

liquidsound
KVRAF
2950 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:25 pm

Still learning it, I find Operator the easiest synth to get things done with FM.
MuLab.Ableton.Diva.Zebra.Repro-1.Dune2.The Legend.ArcSyn.Spire.TAL

gremlinmoon
KVRist
168 posts since 9 Dec, 2006

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:38 am

I use 2-OP "with a twist" FM fairly often for clangy and discordant bell sounds but I do most of my sound design late at night and adjusting multi-op envelopes at the bewitching hour puts me to sleep. Literally.

If I have the opportunity to make music at 10am with a couple cups of coffee I go straight to Sytrus.

Something that I have been doing too is using the "FM" waveforms included with Arcsyn which is the VST I am currently obsessed with.

User avatar
sin night
KVRian
1259 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:42 am

FM is not my goto, I click more with subtractive synthesis... I need filters.
2-operatores FM is very welcome in a subtractive synth, it opens a lot of possibilities while being still easy to manage.

fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12922 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:04 am

Although I know how FM works in theory, it is just not intuitive enough for me to invest time and energy in. It just doesn't appeal to me, although I do like some FM sounds like that infamous DX bass and Rhodes.

liquidsound
KVRAF
2950 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:23 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:Although I know how FM works in theory, it is just not intuitive enough for me to invest time and energy in. It just doesn't appeal to me, although I do like some FM sounds like that infamous DX bass and Rhodes.
It's an old popular video, very short, but that's what made me approach FM with more courage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFv00PegJg

Too bad part 2 was never made. Best explanation evere.
MuLab.Ableton.Diva.Zebra.Repro-1.Dune2.The Legend.ArcSyn.Spire.TAL

fluffy_little_something
KVRAF
12922 posts since 5 Jun, 2012

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:38 am

liquidsound wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Although I know how FM works in theory, it is just not intuitive enough for me to invest time and energy in. It just doesn't appeal to me, although I do like some FM sounds like that infamous DX bass and Rhodes.
It's an old popular video, very short, but that's what made me approach FM with more courage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFv00PegJg

Too bad part 2 was never made. Best explanation evere.
That^s what I meant, I know how it works in theory, but I lack the intuitive knowledge of the connection between settings and resulting sounds. With a subtractive sznth I know how to set parameters in order to get a sound I have in my head.

liquidsound
KVRAF
2950 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:12 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote:Although I know how FM works in theory, it is just not intuitive enough for me to invest time and energy in. It just doesn't appeal to me, although I do like some FM sounds like that infamous DX bass and Rhodes.
It's an old popular video, very short, but that's what made me approach FM with more courage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziFv00PegJg

Too bad part 2 was never made. Best explanation evere.
That^s what I meant, I know how it works in theory, but I lack the intuitive knowledge of the connection between settings and resulting sounds. With a subtractive sznth I know how to set parameters in order to get a sound I have in my head.
I know, but in time, if you can spare some, it will come to pass.
Btw, unexpected results are quite often inspiring and stunning.
MuLab.Ableton.Diva.Zebra.Repro-1.Dune2.The Legend.ArcSyn.Spire.TAL

melodyz
KVRist
317 posts since 29 Mar, 2016

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:08 am

Hi Liquid sound

Can you please remove or edit that youtube video? That guy may know how to explain fm but I dont like his language at the intro.

Apostate
KVRian
1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:14 am

The only "'specialized" FM synth I use regularly is Nemesis (I like FM8 and Sytrus, but simply prefer the sound of Tone2).

However, I "do" FM in most of my other (tons of) synths, especially Blue II and Zebra/HZ.

melodyz wrote:Hi Liquid sound

Can you please remove or edit that youtube video? That guy may know how to explain fm but I dont like his language at the intro.
:lol:

Oh dear.
Last edited by Apostate on Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
Ha ha suck it!

liquidsound
KVRAF
2950 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:16 am

melodyz wrote:Hi Liquid sound

Can you please remove or edit that youtube video? That guy may know how to explain fm but I dont like his language at the intro.
I can't edit that video.
My post has a reply so I can't remove that either.
I suggest not to look at the video. It is fine for YouTube community policy. :shrug:
MuLab.Ableton.Diva.Zebra.Repro-1.Dune2.The Legend.ArcSyn.Spire.TAL

Apostate
KVRian
1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:18 am

liquidsound wrote:
melodyz wrote:Hi Liquid sound

Can you please remove or edit that youtube video? That guy may know how to explain fm but I dont like his language at the intro.
I can't edit that video.
My post has a reply so I cant remove that either.
I suggest not to look at the video. It is fine for YouTube community policy. :shrug:
I'm still cracking up. Grow up, Liquid Sound. One f-bomb ain't gonna hurt anyone, Betty White.
Ha ha suck it!

liquidsound
KVRAF
2950 posts since 30 May, 2006 from Hollow Earth

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:54 am

Apostate wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
melodyz wrote:Hi Liquid sound

Can you please remove or edit that youtube video? That guy may know how to explain fm but I dont like his language at the intro.
I can't edit that video.
My post has a reply so I cant remove that either.
I suggest not to look at the video. It is fine for YouTube community policy. :shrug:
I'm still cracking up. Grow up, Liquid Sound. One f-bomb ain't gonna hurt anyone, Betty White.
It ain't me complaining Apostate.
"melodyz" has an issue with the f-bomb or the fm-bomb in this case :hihi:
MuLab.Ableton.Diva.Zebra.Repro-1.Dune2.The Legend.ArcSyn.Spire.TAL

Apostate
KVRian
1207 posts since 16 Sep, 2006

Re: IS FM synthesis your goto?

Post Tue Oct 18, 2016 7:54 am

liquidsound wrote:
Apostate wrote:
liquidsound wrote:
melodyz wrote:Hi Liquid sound

Can you please remove or edit that youtube video? That guy may know how to explain fm but I dont like his language at the intro.
I can't edit that video.
My post has a reply so I cant remove that either.
I suggest not to look at the video. It is fine for YouTube community policy. :shrug:
I'm still cracking up. Grow up, Liquid Sound. One f-bomb ain't gonna hurt anyone, Betty White.
It ain't me complaining Apostate.
"melodyz" has an issue with the f-bomb or the fm-bomb in this case :hihi:
Sorry, man. It IS pretty funny though, huh. :clown:
Ha ha suck it!

Return to “Instruments”