Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

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aMUSEd
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29977 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:45 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:I like the way Waves did it in Element, both versions are in one plugin and one can switch back and forth between the two. The sound has really changed a lot, way more than I remember for instance with the Saurus update, and that was even a new main version, not just .x.
u-he did the same with Zebra 2.5 - problem is I guess is it's OK to switch between 2 modes but when you add more it gets unrealistic.

chk071
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17542 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:57 am

ENV1 wrote:
chk071 wrote:In Electra2, which saw some sound changes compared to ElectraX, the sounds just sounded a bit different.
In other words if your sounds were based on certain sweetspots, the new 'drastically enhanced sound quality' probably ruined everything. Not good if you spent a lot of time doing delicate fine-tweaking until the sounds were just right...
You're right, it could messe up some presets. My guess is that they check the presets, and adjust a couple of things, before releasing a new version, with sound enhancements.

Anyway, i don't really see an easy way to do this, unless you want to pack bloat in your new version (for example, i really didn't want to mess with ElectraX anymore, after the Electra2 update...).

Robmobius
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3102 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:00 am

fluffy_little_something wrote: Is this update free?
Yup! :tu:
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Caine123
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5421 posts since 5 Aug, 2009

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:08 pm

did anyone test it? is the sound very different?
cause if so i need to rename the DLL i guess.... got a lot of old projects
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bmanic
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8098 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:24 pm

Urs wrote:Really curious: How can it be 100% downwards compatible with a long list of obviously drastic changes in sound? Do they use some sort of backwards compatibility mode, or do they simply take into account that existing projects will sound different?

(I ask because we're permanently facing similar issues, so it would be great to hear what other companies do and what their users think about it)
No, it's not 100% sound compatible at all. All the previous updates always changed the sound even though it was stated that it was 100% compatible.

Tone2 only mean that the presets will load. It's one of those weird things about Tone2 products.. the actual sound changes sometimes from one update to another (which is why I always keep old downloads handy).
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Vortifex
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1001 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:32 pm

exmatproton wrote: - More robustness
This is good. I like my synths to have somewhere between 15-25% robustness.

Examigan
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4445 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 4:44 pm

Robmobius wrote:
fluffy_little_something wrote: Is this update free?
Yup! :tu:
"The update is free for all Gladiator2 users."

chk071
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17542 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:15 pm

Vortifex wrote:
exmatproton wrote: - More robustness
This is good. I like my synths to have somewhere between 15-25% robustness.
Lol :)

Was wondering about that too.

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bmanic
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8098 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 5:25 pm

Found an extremely weird bug. I can not type the letter 'm' when I try to name a preset I created. The capital 'M' works just fine though. Very strange.

EDIT: Also.. my preset isn't loading up properly. Man I really hope this isn't any copy protection shenanigans that have broken down. :x
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bmanic
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8098 posts since 3 Feb, 2003 from Finland, Espoo

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:08 pm

Well.. I managed to salvage the preset by loading an automatic backup that Reaper created.

Man, I had forgotten just how good a pad machine this thing is. I had an awesome pad going with just a little tinkering (and tons of fine tuning so that I could "play it" precisely on my crappy iRig keys).

Gladiator 2 Pad Improv

That's all Gladiator 2 + a compressor (Violet from the N4 library) and DMG Limitless on the master to catch any possible peaks.
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4729 posts since 24 May, 2004 from square1

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 7:15 pm

chk071 wrote:
Vortifex wrote:
exmatproton wrote: - More robustness
This is good. I like my synths to have somewhere between 15-25% robustness.
Lol :)

Was wondering about that too.
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exmatproton
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2118 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:19 pm

Vortifex wrote:
exmatproton wrote: - More robustness
This is good. I like my synths to have somewhere between 15-25% robustness.
hahaha :D

I have really no idea what they mean with that....

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Nielzie
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8986 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherlands

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:37 pm

Always good for a gladiator to have some extra robustness.

I hope the new Zebra will get some more stripes.
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exmatproton
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Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Fri Apr 07, 2017 11:40 pm

Nielzie wrote:Always good for a gladiator to have some extra robustness.

I hope the new Zebra will get some more stripes.
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planetearth
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1404 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa

Re: Tone2 Gladiator 2.6 update

Post Sat Apr 08, 2017 12:01 am

bmanic wrote:Well.. I managed to salvage the preset by loading an automatic backup that Reaper created.

Man, I had forgotten just how good a pad machine this thing is. I had an awesome pad going with just a little tinkering (and tons of fine tuning so that I could "play it" precisely on my crappy iRig keys).

Gladiator 2 Pad Improv

That's all Gladiator 2 + a compressor (Violet from the N4 library) and DMG Limitless on the master to catch any possible peaks.
Nice track! Nice pad choice, too!

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