Any news on Massive 2?

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Igro
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3988 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere

Post Fri May 19, 2017 1:30 pm

10 years have past since the release. I'm wondering if NI are working on the upgrade of this wavetable pioneer? Maybe it's time to catch up the rivals? New filters (old ones are very outdated), resizable GUI, new waveforms, waveform editor and you name it. It's weird that such a huge company cannot even make a bigger GUI for it for HD monitors.

chk071
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17025 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 1:36 pm

Absolutely in for that too. I don't think it'll happen any time soon though. NI seem to have other priorities.

acYm
KVRian
635 posts since 11 Sep, 2015

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 1:44 pm

tbh, with Daliot gone, and nobody into advanced synthesis left over at NI, M2 will either never happen, or suck about as much as z3ta 2 if if does.

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EvilDragon
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16915 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 1:46 pm

acYm wrote:and nobody into advanced synthesis left over at NI
Absolutely untrue (and made up) information.

chk071
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17025 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 1:46 pm

acYm wrote:tbh, with Daliot gone, and nobody into advanced synthesis left over at NI
Seriously? What about Reaktor?

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Igro
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3988 posts since 26 Apr, 2007 from Noosphere

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 2:02 pm

chk071 wrote:
acYm wrote:tbh, with Daliot gone, and nobody into advanced synthesis left over at NI
Seriously? What about Reaktor?
Exactly. Stephan Schmitt (NI founder) coded it. So he could do the job, no?

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tehlord
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7672 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 2:04 pm

I would put money on there never being a Massive follow up.

Native instruments wants to sell you content because a) it costs less to develop and b) costs less to support.

I would actually rather see them do something with Absynth. Massive has already been surpassed by Serum and other wavetable synths now.

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wagtunes
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13345 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 2:06 pm

Certainly if they have coders capable of creating and maintaining Reaktor, they can make a Massive 2. Will they? Highly unlikely at this point. I think we have seen the last of Massive, FM and ABSynth.

chk071
KVRAF
17025 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 2:08 pm

tehlord wrote:I would put money on there never being a Massive follow up.
Yeah, have that feeling too... if they really wanted to do a successor, they would have done it by now. They would have to top other wavetable synths like Serum, so, would have to be quite an effort then. But, i'd surely like to be surprised by NI. :) IF someone could top Serum and likes, then it's them. Reaktor is superb in terms of sound quality, so, a Massive 2 would probable be very good as well.

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aMUSEd
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29652 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 2:11 pm

Personally I still prefer Massive to Serum

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sinemotor
KVRist
126 posts since 24 Dec, 2015

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 2:29 pm

It's out and it's called Serum.

acYm
KVRian
635 posts since 11 Sep, 2015

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 3:04 pm

as soon as you leave the admittedly stellar wavetable editor and engine, massive kinda mops the floor with serum, I gotta say. much, much cooler environment.

I respect Schmitt as much as anyone else here, but he never made anything in reaktor that's as good or better than massive. reaktor is not aging well anyway, modern synth designs perform terribly in there.

VitaminD
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8623 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 3:09 pm

tehlord wrote:I would put money on there never being a Massive follow up.

Native instruments wants to sell you content because a) it costs less to develop and b) costs less to support.
"Wants to" and "will" are two very different situations... and until I see some VST action on the NI front, I'm not updating Komplete.

I suppose I could be in the minority, but I am not interested in more samples to clutter my hard drive. I don't care how meticulous and life-like they are... :borg:

However, I think you're correct in no VST (outside of Kontakt and Reaktor) instrument plugins from NI. They are really riding the sample horse hard.
"Use the talents you possess, for the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except the best." - Henry Van Dyke

twal
KVRist
129 posts since 10 Feb, 2017

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 3:33 pm

I think they will do Massive 2 and Absynth 6. I know Brian Clevinger is always working on Absynth and hopes for it to continue. I think it would be very foolish for them not to at least make Massive 2. I think it would make them a lot of money. And no Serum doesn't have to completely destroy the possibility of Massive 2- as Massive can take on new characteristics Serum doesn't and Massive 2 would sell no matter what based on it's name.

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GeorgeZ
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2908 posts since 29 May, 2009 from New Zealand

Re: Any news on Massive 2?

Post Fri May 19, 2017 3:50 pm

VitaminD wrote:
tehlord wrote:I would put money on there never being a Massive follow up.

Native instruments wants to sell you content because a) it costs less to develop and b) costs less to support.
"Wants to" and "will" are two very different situations... and until I see some VST action on the NI front, I'm not updating Komplete.

I suppose I could be in the minority, but I am not interested in more samples to clutter my hard drive. I don't care how meticulous and life-like they are... :borg:

However, I think you're correct in no VST (outside of Kontakt and Reaktor) instrument plugins from NI. They are really riding the sample horse hard.
Same man, that's why I'm still on K9... :scared:
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