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ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue May 15, 2018 6:59 pm

dune_rave wrote:They can't update it, and even if they did, many other developers have newer, more modern wavetable synths, so I bet NI won't even try to release new versions of their legacy synths. Same goes to fm8 and absynth.
forget it

Yes, but, there is something that will be included in the next release of Komplete called "Massive X." AFAIK, NI has two products with the Massive name. The synth that everyone knows about and a Reaktor ensemble that is a completely different thing. So we're all speculating on whether Massive X is somehow a new version of Massive (the synth), or some other product not related to Massive (the synth), and how they might be related.

I agree, I don't think that there's much hope for their old line of products, they seemed to have abandoned them and are not turning back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FblVahwLlM8

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:15 pm

maybe Massive X will be a sample-based player for downloads of wav files from sounds.com

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:16 pm

Yeah, highly doubt it.

0degree · Post by **0degree** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:21 pm

Weird, why not leverage that Massive or Absynth are still regognised products? I’d happily pay for updates

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:24 pm

Massive is definitely a cool synth. If they'd up the sound engine a bit, and add some nice wavetables, it'd surely be a winner.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:38 pm

Maybe it's just too much work to go from a basic installer
that even works in linux-wine, to some convoluted
morasse of Native Access, iso images, and collecting
as much from the users data as the law allows.
And all that has yet to touch the synth parts that might
be made 2019-ready.

Probably they think breaking even would be the best possible
outcome, but that's not why most people run a business.
Cheers

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Tue May 15, 2018 7:41 pm

glokraw wrote:Maybe it's just too much work to go from a basic installer
that even works in linux-wine, to some convoluted
morasse of Native Access, iso images, and collecting
as much from the users data as the law allows.
And all that has yet to touch the synth parts that might
be made 2019-ready.

Probably they think breaking even would be the best possible
outcome, but that's not why most people run a business.
Cheers

NI is like adobe; they put files everywhere (shudder).

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:04 pm

NI actually does follow MS/Apple guidelines where which files are supposed to go on your system.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:49 pm

EvilDragon wrote:NI actually does follow MS/Apple guidelines where which files are supposed to go on your system.

my 3rd-party plugins put files in very-specific places; i expect that. adobe & NI go much further, putting files in many specific places. personally, i find it a mess (especially when troubleshooting, or migrating 'manually' to a new mac). but, to be fair, most of the time we don't need to visit those places, and, at the end of the day, i just want my apps to work (which adobe & NI apps mostly do); work, that is.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue May 15, 2018 8:53 pm

Just wondering, but, which folders are that? There are folders set in Native Access where it installs plugins, and additional files, there are folders under AppData/Local and AppData/Roaming (for Native Access only) in the user folder, and there's a folder in Documents, where the user specific files, presets, ensembles and Reaktor and all that go. No real surprises there.

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Tue May 15, 2018 9:58 pm

chk071 wrote:Just wondering, but, which folders are that? There are folders set in Native Access where it installs plugins, and additional files, there are folders under AppData/Local and AppData/Roaming (for Native Access only) in the user folder, and there's a folder in Documents, where the user specific files, presets, ensembles and Reaktor and all that go. No real surprises there.

i actually removed NI stuff a few years ago, when i abandoned massive & FM8; there were files in more places than any other 3rd-party plugins i use; just seems a bit over-the-top (but easyfind helped me clear it all up).

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Tue May 15, 2018 11:43 pm

wetdentist wrote:maybe Massive X will be a sample-based player for downloads of wav files from sounds.com

I doubt that.I can't imagine why they would use the name yet again for something different. I was only joking above, I'm pretty sure that this is related to Massive, the synthesizer.

wetdentist · Post by **wetdentist** » Tue May 15, 2018 11:55 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
wetdentist wrote:maybe Massive X will be a sample-based player for downloads of wav files from sounds.com
I doubt that.I can't imagine why they would use the name yet again for something different. I was only joking above, I'm pretty sure that this is related to Massive, the synthesizer.

i'm kinda joking as well. but NI does seem to put a lot more effort, these days, into sample-oriented products, rather than spending time updating software that needs fixing.

glokraw · Post by **glokraw** » Wed May 16, 2018 12:00 am

EvilDragon wrote:NI actually does follow MS/Apple guidelines where which files are supposed to go on your system.

Therin lies much of the problem in virtual installations.
Wusikstation put everything in one folder, Reaper can go portable,
and then there is the scattergun approach, which I believe
was invented by microsoft back when their coders
were still paid by the line of code

We're lucky
their greed stopped just short of insanity

InLight-Tone · Post by **InLight-Tone** » Wed May 16, 2018 12:25 am

EvilDragon wrote:NI actually does follow MS/Apple guidelines where which files are supposed to go on your system.

But sometime back in Windows 7, the "Documents" folder which used to be "My Documents" got taken over by all the software vendors. What's up with that?

Any news on Massive 2?