Physical modelling in 2017

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adydub
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485 posts since 23 Jan, 2004 from Oxford, England

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:16 am

For me Pianoteq is something of a benchmark in terms of sound and sophistication for physical modelling based instruments. I regularly use the AAS derived physical modelling instruments in Live, but they are a long way from the cutting edge and sound pretty crude compared to Pianoteq.

I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?

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Krakatau
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5456 posts since 25 May, 2002 from Bobo-dioulasso\BF__Geneva/CH

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:30 am

check this out, for instance :

https://physicalaudio.co.uk/PA3.html

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Michael L
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2444 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from the End of the World as we Knowit

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 4:48 am

Modelonia is great, but needs finesse and a nice convolution reverb:
http://www.nusofting.liqihsynth.com/modelonia.html
Also this hybrid with lots of control:
http://www.samplemodeling.com/en/swam_saxophones.php
And this is sort of vocal modeling:
http://wolfgangpalm.com/phonem.html

Cinebient
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3791 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:10 am

I still find Sculpture the best from all in general.
But of course there are better ones for some specific areas like Pianoteq, Chromaphone etc.
However i did never find any tool which could change timbres in such an "organic" and interesting way in realtime like Sculpture.
My second fav is Reaktor Prism, then Chromaphone, then maybe Pianoteq which is of course the best for piano and similar key sounds but still could not replace a thing like Keyscapes for me.
Some other interesting things are the Finger Fiddle app for iOS which has a great GUI and a good engine to emulate strings (violin, viola, cello, double bass).
I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things).
In general i really miss the next thing in terms of physical modeling. I´m still waiting for a kind of Sculpture 2.

woggle
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2192 posts since 24 Nov, 2012

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:13 am

adydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
Kaivo is great

jeffb01
KVRian
645 posts since 18 Apr, 2006

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 6:51 am

Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.

Armagibbon
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695 posts since 20 Apr, 2017

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 7:53 am

jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.
Came here to post this.

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wagtunes
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14023 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:07 am

jeffb01 wrote:Modo bass by IK multimedia impressed me.
Yeah, MODO Bass really does rock. It's the only non synth bass I use anymore.

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Vortifex
KVRian
1031 posts since 1 Sep, 2016

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 8:16 am

MODO Bass sounds good but damn it's expensive for a plugin.

adydub
KVRist
485 posts since 23 Jan, 2004 from Oxford, England

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:02 am

Krakatau wrote:check this out, for instance :

https://physicalaudio.co.uk/PA3.html
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!

tatanka
KVRian
927 posts since 13 Jan, 2014

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:37 am

This is exactly the kind of thing I'm looking for, thank you!
Mac only :cry: :cry: this one sounds really great, what a pity.....

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masterhiggins
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1889 posts since 31 Dec, 2004 from People's Republic of Minnesota

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:45 am

woggle wrote:
adydub wrote:
I'm planning on checking put Madrona Labs Kaivo, but was wondering what else was out there that's based on physical modelling, but takes a step up from the previous generation?
Kaivo is great
Kaivo is incredible, but some patches will kick your system's ass. I have a quad 2.8 i7 and sometimes it maxes out an entire core.

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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10797 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:47 am

Cinebient wrote:I also really like the Reaktor ensemble Serenade 3 which is similar to Finger Fiddle (the GUI is not as good but with automations it can create awesome things)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLkPvmr93K8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2CMq-zIua4
Last edited by el-bo (formerly ebow) on Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:55 am, edited 1 time in total.

Dasheesh
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2819 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:50 am

So let me get this right, you get this AND Alchemy in Logic? All you are missing is true algorithmic analog. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rIcWE6Nhns

Dasheesh
KVRAF
2819 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Re: Physical modelling in 2017

Post Sat Jul 22, 2017 11:52 am

If I had Logic I would get Largo and DIVA and call it a day. You done.

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