Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

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hivkorn
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2757 posts since 6 Sep, 2007 from France

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:23 am

https://www.softube.com/index.php?id=buchla_259e
How twisted can things get? With Buchla 259e, the answer is—pretty twisted! This coveted dual oscillator module is the first-ever officially licensed plug-in version of a Buchla product. While the unit can be used for traditional synth patches, its unusual inner workings makes Buchla 259e excel at metallic, cold, harsh, digital and screeching sounds.

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whyterabbyt
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26130 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:26 am

Nice, but a $79 intro price? (and $99 RRP?). feck.
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wagtunes
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13430 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:34 am

And this is what's going to kill Softube Modular. $79 for ONE module?

I paid $146 for Softube Modular when I first got it and that was WITH the extra 3 modules.

So I'm going to half to pay over HALF of that for ONE module?

These guys are f**king whacked.

himalaya
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4818 posts since 23 Mar, 2006 from pendeLondonmonium

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 4:41 am

This is not surprising. There is a license involved, a license of a product that itself is super expensive, just like all Buchla stuff.
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foosnark
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4384 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:06 am

The real Buchla 259e is $1600, about the same as my 4 most expensive oscillator modules combined (had I paid full price for all of them, rather than just one of them).

spunkmuffin
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679 posts since 5 Sep, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:16 am

Well this is a surprise...hmm.
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Nielzie
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8974 posts since 28 May, 2005 from Netherlands

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:24 am

wagtunes wrote:And this is what's going to kill Softube Modular. $79 for ONE module?

I paid $146 for Softube Modular when I first got it and that was WITH the extra 3 modules.

So I'm going to half to pay over HALF of that for ONE module?

These guys are f**king whacked.
I guess it's the marketing strategy. First lure many new customers into the system with a very attractive deal and then.. :wink:
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wagtunes
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13430 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:41 am

For everybody saying that a real Buchla is $1600, it doesn't wash here.

Take Falcon. A hardware synth with the same capability would cost $3,500 minimum. Nobody is going to pay that for a soft synth. I don't care if it can cook your dinner for you.

When an entire synth costs $150 and you then try to sell one module at more than half that price, in the VST market, you're stark raving mad. The only people who are going to pay that kind of money (and actually a lot more after the introductory period ends) are those who are 100% hardcore modular enthusiasts and DO look at is as paying just $79 for a $1600 module. I don't. Not when the whole synth only cost me $146.

It'll be interesting to see how large their customer base is and how well they do with these overpriced modules.

Daags
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2188 posts since 19 Dec, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 5:57 am

Why are you acting surprised ? I wasn't the only one to call this when Softube first announced Modular. Can't say you were not warned.

egbert101
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Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:03 am

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wagtunes
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13430 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:04 am

Daags wrote:Why are you acting surprised ? I wasn't the only one to call this when Softube first announced Modular. Can't say you were not warned.
Well, I wasn't expecting prices to be THIS insane. I mean the initial extra modules weren't near this much money. In fact, the 3 Intellijel modules together are only $130 combined.

If this had come out at around the same price ($39 to $49) I'd be fine with it. But $99 regular retail?

I can get a whole f**king synth for that much money.

So no, THIS I never expected.

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foosnark
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4384 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:09 am

I see your point, but then I think actual Buchla prices are stupid too. If it was a Mutable Instruments module that did the same thing, it'd be $320, the code and schematics would be open source, people would build a DIY version for you for $200, and you could use it for free in VCVRack. :D

As far as price ratios go, the 259e is about 5% of the hardware price. Their other modules are 10%, 18%, 24% of the hardware price.


There are people who will buy it, I'm sure. If I had Softube, I'd maybe think about it. (I had problems with iLok when I installed the demo, and greatly prefer hardware modular over software synths anyway.)

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thecontrolcentre
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23023 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:12 am

I bet it'll be 50% off in the sales, and they'll sell a boatload :ud:

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autodafe
KVRian
1341 posts since 17 Jul, 2001 from Milan, Italy

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:13 am

strange price after VCV RAck came out. 79$ for a single oscillator???

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RPH
KVRian
1098 posts since 21 Nov, 2005 from The Netherlands

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:33 am

At least modular works here, and there is support.
VCV is very much beta, no support, and doesn't run on my (new) pc.

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