Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

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republik
KVRist
158 posts since 8 Apr, 2004

Post Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:09 pm

pdxindy wrote:
lnikj wrote:
Being able to connect Reaktor and Modular together in a single patch is great. I wonder if it will be possible to do the same once the VCV bridge is out so that we can use the Mutable Instruments & Befaco modules together with Modular.

:party:
Is the connection between them at audio rate? or control rate?
It's my understanding in Reaktor that audio rate is indicated by the white color cables and outputs, and control rate is indicated by yellow cables and outputs.

The inputs on blocks are yellow by default but I think they are designed to be interchangeable because if you plug the white (audio rate) cable into a blocks input, it turns white.

Most outputs on blocks I've seen are white, except for Note In, Trig In, and some on Kodiak. So if you connect the pitch and gate output from the Note In block right to an audio outlet (and into Modular) you probably wouldn't get the result you want. You would probably use the Pitch CV Out block instead.

Beyond that, all the LFO, VCO, VCA, sequencer blocks, yadda yadda with white outputs have been working well with Modular, in my experience.

kiezum
KVRist
460 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:26 am

Some new experiments with the Buchla 259e with the Intellijel Korgasmatron II. Softube's modular sounds so wildy good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-VxXkNrjuM

raymondwave
KVRist
225 posts since 2 May, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Sat Oct 14, 2017 3:42 am

Interesting sounds, what reverb are you using?

I'm still thinking wether to get this or not, it's super fun to play with, but not necessarily my cup of tea when it comes to using sounds on actual tunes.

kiezum
KVRist
460 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:49 am

I'm using the Softube Tsar-1 reverb. It's a very versatile reverb. The density knob can change the sound from modern to vintage reverb. It integrates in Modular.

I don't see Modular (and especially Buchla) as an instrument I play 'realtime' in my compositions. Modular is more a sound generator. In Cubase I record everything I do in Modular (see also a workflow Future Music video with Thijs de Vlieger from Noisia). And then I use those sounds in samplers, wavetable and granular synths or just as loops. I made a video about my workflow in Cubase and Halion:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usEmIFcu4Wg

gentleclockdivider
KVRian
1140 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:45 am

republik wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
lnikj wrote:
Being able to connect Reaktor and Modular together in a single patch is great. I wonder if it will be possible to do the same once the VCV bridge is out so that we can use the Mutable Instruments & Befaco modules together with Modular.

:party:
Is the connection between them at audio rate? or control rate?
It's my understanding in Reaktor that audio rate is indicated by the white color cables and outputs, and control rate is indicated by yellow cables and outputs.

The inputs on blocks are yellow by default but I think they are designed to be interchangeable because if you plug the white (audio rate) cable into a blocks input, it turns white.

Most outputs on blocks I've seen are white, except for Note In, Trig In, and some on Kodiak. So if you connect the pitch and gate output from the Note In block right to an audio outlet (and into Modular) you probably wouldn't get the result you want. You would probably use the Pitch CV Out block instead.

Beyond that, all the LFO, VCO, VCA, sequencer blocks, yadda yadda with white outputs have been working well with Modular, in my experience.
Some inputs in reaktor are hybrid , meaning if you connect a an audio cable , the transer rate will be @ sample rate .
The general rule is that for blocks , everything should be audio .
But smartass , newbie kids dont care about this ad thus destroying the block framework by uploading their blocks made out of primary modules and event rate connection.
Then some complain why certain blocks sound like shit .

Most of us saw this happen from the start .
Blocks ( audio processing ) should always be made in core / always @ audio rate ...
And yes, creating blocks requires in depth knowledge of reaktor core
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Soul calibrating ..frequencies

republik
KVRist
158 posts since 8 Apr, 2004

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Sat Oct 14, 2017 6:09 am

gentleclockdivider wrote:
republik wrote:
pdxindy wrote:
lnikj wrote:
Being able to connect Reaktor and Modular together in a single patch is great. I wonder if it will be possible to do the same once the VCV bridge is out so that we can use the Mutable Instruments & Befaco modules together with Modular.

:party:
Is the connection between them at audio rate? or control rate?
It's my understanding in Reaktor that audio rate is indicated by the white color cables and outputs, and control rate is indicated by yellow cables and outputs.

The inputs on blocks are yellow by default but I think they are designed to be interchangeable because if you plug the white (audio rate) cable into a blocks input, it turns white.

Most outputs on blocks I've seen are white, except for Note In, Trig In, and some on Kodiak. So if you connect the pitch and gate output from the Note In block right to an audio outlet (and into Modular) you probably wouldn't get the result you want. You would probably use the Pitch CV Out block instead.

Beyond that, all the LFO, VCO, VCA, sequencer blocks, yadda yadda with white outputs have been working well with Modular, in my experience.
Some inputs in reaktor are hybrid , meaning if you connect a an audio cable , the transer rate will be @ sample rate .
The general rule is that for blocks , everything should be audio .
But smartass , newbie kids dont care about this ad thus destroying the block framework by uploading their blocks made out of primary modules and event rate connection.
Then some complain why certain blocks sound like shit .

Most of us saw this happen from the start .
Blocks ( audio processing ) should always be made in core / always @ audio rate ...
And yes, creating blocks requires in depth knowledge of reaktor core
I'm not surprised to hear that. Most of the community built blocks I've tried are from contributors like Michael Hetrick. It goes without saying that he's made an enormous contribution of high quality blocks that users are lucky to have for free.

kiezum
KVRist
460 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Tue Oct 24, 2017 11:22 am

Last month I recorded six experiments with the Softube Buchla 259e module. Like processing a drumloop with the Buchla:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlx3org- ... vR&index=7

kiezum
KVRist
460 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:14 am

A new Softube Buchla experiment.
Softube Buchla, Intellijel and some math. And also Doepher of course. Exploring the logic tools and divider connected to the LFO, LPG, Fold and the Buchla. Off screen are two sequencers with a CV mixer which provide pitch CV for the Buchla. And there's the Tsar-1 reverb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7oUn84PeBY

kiezum
KVRist
460 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:57 am

Here's an experiment... Buchla with the new 4ms Pingable Envelope Generator. Well, it's an interesting envelope generator. And I haven't used the async. The 'cycle' is switched on and off with the Doepher LFO. And the speed of LFO is influenced by the 4ms PEG.
Caution: some very nasty sounds :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNjtrowE0U

akeia
KVRist
121 posts since 14 Nov, 2016 from Berliner Umland

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:17 pm

kiezum wrote:Here's an experiment...
Dude. Just came off Euro-Crack and now you push me the Modular-Methadone :D

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wagtunes
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13257 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:36 pm

kiezum wrote:Here's an experiment... Buchla with the new 4ms Pingable Envelope Generator. Well, it's an interesting envelope generator. And I haven't used the async. The 'cycle' is switched on and off with the Doepher LFO. And the speed of LFO is influenced by the 4ms PEG.
Caution: some very nasty sounds :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNjtrowE0U
Where did you get the PEG from?

Never mind, I found it.

http://www.4mspedals.com/peg.php

$345? That's like buying a piece of hardware.

ravasb
KVRian
844 posts since 20 Feb, 2004

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 5:44 pm

wagtunes wrote:
kiezum wrote:Here's an experiment... Buchla with the new 4ms Pingable Envelope Generator. Well, it's an interesting envelope generator. And I haven't used the async. The 'cycle' is switched on and off with the Doepher LFO. And the speed of LFO is influenced by the 4ms PEG.
Caution: some very nasty sounds :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNjtrowE0U
Where did you get the PEG from?

Never mind, I found it.

http://www.4mspedals.com/peg.php

$345? That's like buying a piece of hardware.
That is for the hardware. The softube version is $23.00

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wagtunes
KVRAF
13257 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:38 pm

ravasb wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
kiezum wrote:Here's an experiment... Buchla with the new 4ms Pingable Envelope Generator. Well, it's an interesting envelope generator. And I haven't used the async. The 'cycle' is switched on and off with the Doepher LFO. And the speed of LFO is influenced by the 4ms PEG.
Caution: some very nasty sounds :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNjtrowE0U
Where did you get the PEG from?

Never mind, I found it.

http://www.4mspedals.com/peg.php

$345? That's like buying a piece of hardware.
That is for the hardware. The softube version is $23.00
Except the Softube version, which I have, doesn't look anything like what I saw in that video. So where did that particular module come from?

** EDIT ** Never mind. I'm thinking of the 4ms spectral multiband resonator. Did the PEG from Softube just come out?

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DocAtlas
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970 posts since 11 Jan, 2006 from Pittsburgh

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:31 pm

wagtunes wrote:
ravasb wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
kiezum wrote:Here's an experiment... Buchla with the new 4ms Pingable Envelope Generator. Well, it's an interesting envelope generator. And I haven't used the async. The 'cycle' is switched on and off with the Doepher LFO. And the speed of LFO is influenced by the 4ms PEG.
Caution: some very nasty sounds :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNjtrowE0U
Where did you get the PEG from?

Never mind, I found it.

http://www.4mspedals.com/peg.php

$345? That's like buying a piece of hardware.
That is for the hardware. The softube version is $23.00
Except the Softube version, which I have, doesn't look anything like what I saw in that video. So where did that particular module come from?

** EDIT ** Never mind. I'm thinking of the 4ms spectral multiband resonator. Did the PEG from Softube just come out?
Yep, it's on Softube's web site now. The Buchla modula is a bit out of my budget right now, but I think I'll pick this one up this week.
I wish I could sing as well as the voices inside my head...

http://www.cdbaby.com/darkvictory

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wagtunes
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13257 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: Buchla 259e Twisted Waveform Generator for modular

Post Mon Nov 20, 2017 7:54 pm

DocAtlas wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
ravasb wrote:
wagtunes wrote:
kiezum wrote:Here's an experiment... Buchla with the new 4ms Pingable Envelope Generator. Well, it's an interesting envelope generator. And I haven't used the async. The 'cycle' is switched on and off with the Doepher LFO. And the speed of LFO is influenced by the 4ms PEG.
Caution: some very nasty sounds :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNjtrowE0U
Where did you get the PEG from?

Never mind, I found it.

http://www.4mspedals.com/peg.php

$345? That's like buying a piece of hardware.
That is for the hardware. The softube version is $23.00
Except the Softube version, which I have, doesn't look anything like what I saw in that video. So where did that particular module come from?

** EDIT ** Never mind. I'm thinking of the 4ms spectral multiband resonator. Did the PEG from Softube just come out?
Yep, it's on Softube's web site now. The Buchla modula is a bit out of my budget right now, but I think I'll pick this one up this week.
Well, just picked up the LPG, PEG and saturation knob (free)

I am absolutely in heaven with this stuff. When this library is done it's going to be massively huge. There is no shortage of ideas.

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