Thorn: Dmitry Sches' new synth!

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KVRist
193 posts since 30 Mar, 2019

Post Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:44 am

I'm so glad I got this. Truly one of the best synths I own.

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KVRAF
2038 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:05 pm

I don't know, maybe it had been discussed already, but maybe someone paid attention that somehow strange LFO works, i mean why it hard-linked to Amp Envelope (under the hood) ?
So, if we wants assign lfo to something what will has impact to sound after Amp env stopped (when release end), lfo will has no impact.
Simple example - if we mant modulate mix knob of reverb fx when set long tail (size) or delay mix or time delay knobs when set big feedback. This just will stop to modulate after note playback.
I do not want to say that a big problem (though for some genres it may has great bummer), but uncommon solution for lfo frankly to say.

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KVRAF
6385 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Sat Sep 05, 2020 9:38 pm

I guess its programmed in a way to take care of resources. If you want to modulate the tail of the reverb, simply modulate/automate it from your DAW...
Or as you want an FX reverb use any other reverb which can be modulated on that level...
Reverbs in VSTis are overrated anyway, only there to make presets more shiny. I prefer separate reverbs, more flexible and more efficient in all cases. Its only a bummer if you don’t know your tools...

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KVRAF
2038 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Sun Sep 06, 2020 2:31 am

@Tj Shredder well, ok not a big bummer, but just simple bummer.
Additionally, in case of lfo'ing delay times during feedback (that a great deal for those who know what wide palette of things can be obtain thru this) the making of external construction will be really inefficient, compare with "native" solution.
Automation...yes, glad that devs allow this at least, but i'm afraid it will not exactly the same, in different senses. Or again, will have to spend much more time, regardless how well you know your tools.

What about cpu usage as reason, i dont know, it seems to me not convincing (i mean, i do not see noticeable consumption during lfo works. But who know, maybe authors really guided by this).

KVRAF
2403 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london

Post Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:33 pm

I just picked up Thorn in the recent sale. I like the sound... however, am I right to think that there's no way to route an oscillator such that it bypasses the filters? The simple near-necessity of having a clean sub layer only appears to be possible if it uses one of the filter channels, and this leaves few options for modulation of body of the sound.
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KVRian
532 posts since 27 Aug, 2020

Post Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:19 pm

Thorn is on a sale, just sayin'.

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KVRist
93 posts since 1 Jan, 2021

Post Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:25 pm

Thorn is great. I mean DS Thorn (ver. 1.1.0). PA Thorn loosers suck.
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KVRian
901 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Post Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:31 pm

What's different beside the fact that it is usable in the future due to platform maintainance and functional updates via PA?

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KVRAF
2168 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:38 pm

nichttuntun wrote:
Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:31 pm
What's different beside the fact that it is usable in the future due to platform maintainance and functional updates via PA?
yes, that i was wondering too. i have the PA version, if you can call it that way, it are independent developers, except brainworx of course. EDIT; some are only indepenent, it seems, like Unfiltered Audio, and DS (Thorn)

i made a track that relies mostly on the Thorn 1.2... own presets, of course, as always.

or relies, it is the only synth you hear all the time, 3 instances... but i is the basics of the tracks, so it does rely...

it is an impressive soft synth;

https://soundcloud.com/sada-exposada/th ... ristic-man
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KVRian
532 posts since 27 Aug, 2020

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:00 am

But you don't have to use the PA installation manager or am I missing something?

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KVRAF
2168 posts since 8 Jun, 2018

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:04 am

crickey13 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:00 am
But you don't have to use the PA installation manager or am I missing something?
you don't have to use it, there are seperate installers for each plugin.

by the way -as expected with a mega sale- the $20 voucher arrived, so Thorn 1.2 can be bought for $19, or so, excluding VAT.

MEGA-SALE-20OFF

by the way. it works only one time. but they will reset it after a few days...
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12585 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:19 am

Interesting piece. It reminds me quite strongly of Mainesthai.
crickey13 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:00 am
But you don't have to use the PA installation manager or am I missing something?
Why wouldn't you use the PA Installation Manager? It makes life so easy. When I was setting up my new laptop a couple of months ago ,it saved me heaps of time installing the PA stuff I own while I played with Uno Pro. It's great!

Thorn is also great. I used a PA voucher to upgrade from the original license and, honestly, I couldn't tell what differences there were. There is certainly no reason to upgrade if you don't want to. I only did it because it didn't actually cost me anything. (Well, maybe $4 but that's nothing these days.)
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KVRian
532 posts since 27 Aug, 2020

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:37 am

I have an offline computer and don't own anything else from PA, so might as well use the regular installer.

Probably gonna create a PA account tonight and buy the synth, been coming for some time. For this price, it'd be kind of ludicrous not to pull the trigger already.

KVRian
901 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:16 am

BONES wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:19 am
Interesting piece. It reminds me quite strongly of Mainesthai.
crickey13 wrote:
Tue Sep 28, 2021 12:00 am
But you don't have to use the PA installation manager or am I missing something?
Why wouldn't you use the PA Installation Manager? It makes life so easy. When I was setting up my new laptop a couple of months ago ,it saved me heaps of time installing the PA stuff I own while I played with Uno Pro. It's great!

Thorn is also great. I used a PA voucher to upgrade from the original license and, honestly, I couldn't tell what differences there were. There is certainly no reason to upgrade if you don't want to. I only did it because it didn't actually cost me anything. (Well, maybe $4 but that's nothing these days.)
I set up a new studio machine recently and yeah, the PA installer is gold.
The only thing I couldn't figure out yet is where it shows if updates are avaliable. I only can re-select the plugins completely.

Do you know if there is a hidden screen?

The Softube and Arturia installer for example do this on their own and show a notification.

Thank you.

KVRAF
5572 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:20 am

Very cool, wanted to buy it for a long time but couldn't justify the full price since I had the Solo version.

Using the PA installer was a breeze, also I got a couple of useful freebies.
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