Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

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DJ Fed
KVRer
26 posts since 21 Aug, 2006 from Ukraine, Mariupol city

Post Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:01 am

ok. got it.

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VELLTONE MUSIC
KVRist
476 posts since 19 Sep, 2017 from Planet Earth

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:39 am

Sorry everything is in the magazine,just have to read it - my bad :)

nichttuntun
KVRist
485 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:31 am

@Velltone Music:
the Serial comes along with an e-mail from AIR.

@all:
I am happy to own VACUUM. Speaking in terms of VST synth it is a kind of it's own. It is no working horse on all stages BUT I say it does some things no other VST does sound like and in this spotlight VACUUM really shines. If you want to design nasty pads, gritty soundscapes, even gutterally laughing effects or just industrial like sounds (Skinny Puppy or Throbbing Gristle) you are on the right track. It's great for what it is and what it is specialized in.

Thank you all!

Have joy and never-ending creativity. Cheers

Ps
Only problem I had was that I couldn't store patches because the files folder is in a protected windows environment and you must be locked in as the real administrator. Anyone having the same issues? I can save now again but I have no clue how I managed it... :?

Hanz Meyzer
KVRian
856 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Fri Dec 29, 2017 5:53 am

This is a pretty nice synth with some unique features!

But what I do not get is, why is Air Tech Music limiting their product by:

- Limiting the modulation capabilities? Even 2013, a synth should come with 8-16 modulation slots, and make almost all parameters available within that
- The VTOs / OSCs can be modulation source, but then not providing a triangle or sine waveform :party:
- Delay amount can be modulated only using env4
- Using ilok software protection, which requires a constantly running background system service (real ugly architecture)

They pretty much crippled this synth. Could have been much more. Well, for 2 € you can say nothing, but I would never have bought this for full or even half price due that unnecessary limitations.

nichttuntun
KVRist
485 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:10 am

Hmmm, I don´t think they "crippled" that synthesizer. Not every synth has to be a Bazille, a Zebra or another modulation madness kind of working horse. Some things are just great for what they are and in the case of Vacuum I like the limitation. The character is unique and I use it when I like to use that certain sound without fiddling hours for the sound to fit the track 8) For me that´s a great advantage.

By the way...here is a tip for you who like Vacuum and want to explore more of that kind of sound and want to have all the modulation madness involved too. Use a mod-monster synth like Bazille, Zebra, Enzyme, Blofeld (hardware - it owns the greatest mod-matrix of them all) or whatever you like and flash the sound through one of the brilliant BRAINWORX Amp simulation...no matter which one you use...they are all first class sounding and sometimes you can get them for a veeeery good price at Plugin Alliance. Man, that sound-combination rocks the hell out of you. If you are uncertain how to sweatspot a guitar amp, watch one of the several videos on youtube for that matter and you have something really special in your sound-arsenal :)

Brap On!

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Jbravo
KVRian
1310 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:43 pm

it's $1 / £1 at pluginboutique currently

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1658 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:39 pm

Jbravo wrote:it's $1 / £1 at pluginboutique currently
Monophonic and iLok. No thanks. :oops:

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Jbravo
KVRian
1310 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Wed Jul 04, 2018 4:43 pm

it's polyphonic and software iLok

I never bought an iLok synth till they were virtually giving them away, and never had a problem

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1658 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 3:29 am

You sure? Hm might just buy it then.

lelderkin
KVRer
15 posts since 27 Mar, 2018

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:13 am

How do I assign LFO 1? When I open the "modulation source" drop down it is not an option. Is it only usable in conjunction with the mod wheel??? It's not at all addressed in the manual :(

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beely
KVRAF
1586 posts since 6 Jul, 2013

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 12:08 pm

Halonmusic wrote:You sure? Hm might just buy it then.
I just played chords on it and there is no iLok dongle plugged into my computer.

Halonmusic
KVRAF
1658 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:56 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:This is a pretty nice synth with some unique features!

But what I do not get is, why is Air Tech Music limiting their product by:

- Limiting the modulation capabilities? Even 2013, a synth should come with 8-16 modulation slots, and make almost all parameters available within that
- The VTOs / OSCs can be modulation source, but then not providing a triangle or sine waveform :party:
- Delay amount can be modulated only using env4
- Using ilok software protection, which requires a constantly running background system service (real ugly architecture)

They pretty much crippled this synth. Could have been much more. Well, for 2 € you can say nothing, but I would never have bought this for full or even half price due that unnecessary limitations.
This. Especially the iLok part. GOD i hate iLok.

zzz00m
KVRian
1315 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:51 pm

Halonmusic wrote:
Hanz Meyzer wrote:This is a pretty nice synth with some unique features!

But what I do not get is, why is Air Tech Music limiting their product by:

- Limiting the modulation capabilities? Even 2013, a synth should come with 8-16 modulation slots, and make almost all parameters available within that
- The VTOs / OSCs can be modulation source, but then not providing a triangle or sine waveform :party:
- Delay amount can be modulated only using env4
- Using ilok software protection, which requires a constantly running background system service (real ugly architecture)

They pretty much crippled this synth. Could have been much more. Well, for 2 € you can say nothing, but I would never have bought this for full or even half price due that unnecessary limitations.
This. Especially the iLok part. GOD i hate iLok.
I get that some folks really don't like iLok, and I respect that opinion.

But the iLok background service on my nearly ancient PC (according to Process Explorer) is showing the PACE License Service as using 0.07% CPU, and 55MB memory. I really hope I have some resources left over for my synths. :o
Windows 10; with instruments from AIR, Ample Sound, AAS, Cakewalk, IK Multimedia, iZotope, KV331, NI, Seaweed Audio, SONiVOX, TAL, Tracktion, u-he, Way Out Ware, XLN, others...

waiting man
KVRAF
2604 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from where dinosaurs are still alive

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Wed Jul 11, 2018 10:11 pm

Where’s the irony in upgrading to a single-voice version of this?
A bit puzzled... :neutral:

Elektronisch
KVRAF
2312 posts since 3 Feb, 2010

Re: Air Music Tech Vacuum Pro Synthesizer - free with Computer Music Magazine January 2018 Issue

Post Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:47 am

I played around today with this synth again and im feeling so sad for the Air Tech Music, this synth sounds fantastic, but the GUI is one of the worst and one of the most unintuitive synth UIs i have ever used. Luckily there are awesome sounding presets to use as a preset machine. Still so sad for the company, with a proper GUI this definatly could be one of more popular synths.

This might be quite a statement but i trully believe who ever made a GUI for this synth, lost alot of money for the company.

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