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- KVRian
- 778 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
I can no longer fathom the kind of things going through this guy's mind. Only in dance music? Capability = sound quality?
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I need a break from the internet.
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I need a break from the internet.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15847 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
That would be because you haven't been around long enough to remember what the world was like when analogue was the only option. If it is so clearly and obviously superior, why did absolutely everyone ditch it in favour of digital synths in the 1980s? Why are the biggest selling synths of all time all digital synths?
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- KVRAF
- 6969 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Maybe he‘s got a misplaced sticky bone where it shouldn‘t be ...samsam wrote:Seems Bones is focusing on anal, which is fine. Each to their own, no?
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https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
Price and availability.BONES wrote:That would be because you haven't been around long enough to remember what the world was like when analogue was the only option. If it is so clearly and obviously superior, why did absolutely everyone ditch it in favour of digital synths in the 1980s? Why are the biggest selling synths of all time all digital synths?
To use your oft used car analogy...the toyota corolla (?) is the best selling car.... is it the best car? No.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
I think yes!AnX wrote:Price and availability.BONES wrote:That would be because you haven't been around long enough to remember what the world was like when analogue was the only option. If it is so clearly and obviously superior, why did absolutely everyone ditch it in favour of digital synths in the 1980s? Why are the biggest selling synths of all time all digital synths?
To use your oft used car analogy...the toyota corolla (?) is the best selling car.... is it the best car? No.
- KVRian
- 778 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
Maybe it is if you live in constant denial.AnX wrote:Price and availability.BONES wrote:That would be because you haven't been around long enough to remember what the world was like when analogue was the only option. If it is so clearly and obviously superior, why did absolutely everyone ditch it in favour of digital synths in the 1980s? Why are the biggest selling synths of all time all digital synths?
To use your oft used car analogy...the toyota corolla (?) is the best selling car.... is it the best car? No.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
- GRRRRRRR!
- 15847 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
Except nobody does those things these days. Consumers might be stupid enough to buy that garbage at retail but nobody records onto 16 track tape any more. There might be a tiny lunatic fringe but that's about the size of it and nobody takes them seriously.egbert101 wrote:It's not about quality, but the opposite. Same reason why people ditch digital recording for tape, vinyl or cassettes.
Except they weren't really factors. A DX-7 wasn't much cheaper than a Jupiter 8, it was just a whole lot better and if you already owned half-a-dozen analogue synths, it was actually cheaper not to buy a new digital synth, especially as you'd have pretty much have to give away your old stuff because nobody wanted it.AnX wrote:Price and availability.
I wasn't suggesting that popularity was a measure of quality, simply asking you guys to tell us why absolutely everybody dropped analogue synths at the very first opportunity. It's a simple question, the answer can't be too difficult to supply, can it?To use your oft used car analogy...the toyota corolla (?) is the best selling car.... is it the best car? No.
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- KVRAF
- 1943 posts since 17 Jun, 2005
Styles and preferences change. The TB-303 is a good example of an analog unit that wasn't particularly awesome in what it set out to do, and later, "misused", absolutely defined the sound of particular genres.BONES wrote:Because people are complete idiots. In 1990 I couldn't give my two TB303s away because everyone saw them for the rubbish they are. Then, all of a sudden and for no valid reason, they are worth $1000. It's a joke.
So historically and artistically, it's not as simple as you are making it out to be, and it's not as serious either . Again, styles and preferences change. People will drop something almost completely, then rediscover it in new ways when they notice it in a new context, be it a part of sub- or popular culture. It's okay! People create with various means, depending on where and when they are, surrounded by the influences they then combine into their own output.
- KVRian
- 778 posts since 21 Apr, 2016
Excuse, me what. Did everyone suddenly forget the buttery rich tone of some of the things that were recorded at Sound City? You're never going to be able to replicate the tone, the richness, the character of that board. God, it's damn near magical.BONES wrote:Except nobody does those things these days. Consumers might be stupid enough to buy that garbage at retail but nobody records onto 16 track tape any more. There might be a tiny lunatic fringe but that's about the size of it and nobody takes them seriously.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but you're just wrong. It's so painfully obvious.
Nobody, Ever wrote:I have enough plugins.
- Banned
- 10732 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
I didnt drop them. Infact, i snapped up a good few bargains in the late 80's early 90's. I didnt own any digital stuff until i bought a PC and some software in 1999. (I used an Amiga thru the 90's tho, but just as a seq/sampler) I still dont own any digital hardware, absolutely no need when i can have it actually in the PC.BONES wrote:Except nobody does those things these days. Consumers might be stupid enough to buy that garbage at retail but nobody records onto 16 track tape any more. There might be a tiny lunatic fringe but that's about the size of it and nobody takes them seriously.egbert101 wrote:It's not about quality, but the opposite. Same reason why people ditch digital recording for tape, vinyl or cassettes.Except they weren't really factors. A DX-7 wasn't much cheaper than a Jupiter 8, it was just a whole lot better and if you already owned half-a-dozen analogue synths, it was actually cheaper not to buy a new digital synth, especially as you'd have pretty much have to give away your old stuff because nobody wanted it.AnX wrote:Price and availability.I wasn't suggesting that popularity was a measure of quality, simply asking you guys to tell us why absolutely everybody dropped analogue synths at the very first opportunity. It's a simple question, the answer can't be too difficult to supply, can it?To use your oft used car analogy...the toyota corolla (?) is the best selling car.... is it the best car? No.