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martinjuenke wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:37 pm Would be nice to have an aural comparision with other favourite piano plugins... :phones:
Currently the Ant. Petrof model was the higes t priority but I plan to re-render those demos with a few other pianos soon.
At the moment i just added an update with 5 more audio demos of the Pianoteq 6.3 Ant. Petrof model to my audio demos i just posted at the previous page. Overall there are 20 audio demos now and those 5 new ones contain music by Franz Liszt.
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I think rendering the same MIDI files for different pianos isn't really good for comparisons, as you'd probably play completely differently on different pianos. The instrument has a big impact on the performance, at least a good one does, in my opinion.

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Delta Sign wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:05 pm I think rendering the same MIDI files for different pianos isn't really good for comparisons, as you'd probably play completely differently on different pianos. The instrument has a big impact on the performance, at least a good one does, in my opinion.
It still would make sense to notice the differences sound, dynamics etc. between different pianos and/or to get and idea if it works better for softer/mellow playing or harder playing or both.

Concerning the new Ant. Petrof model my impression from the audio demos is that it works best for lower and medum velocities but it seems to sound good also for the harder ones.
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Delta Sign wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:05 pm I think rendering the same MIDI files for different pianos isn't really good for comparisons, as you'd probably play completely differently on different pianos. The instrument has a big impact on the performance, at least a good one does, in my opinion.
I don't quite follow what you are saying. A piano piece is a piano piece, and a pianist will try to play the way it feels it should be played, no matter what piano he/she is playing. The piece will not be played differently because of the piano - that's nonsense. If the piano gets in the way, then it's a bad piano.

I'm talking of classical piano, of course. That's why those mellow jazz/pop ballads lots of people use for showing pianos don't tell me anything, because they don't push the piano to its boundaries (actually they hardly show what a piano can do).
Fernando (FMR)

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fmr wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 10:29 pm
Delta Sign wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 9:05 pm I think rendering the same MIDI files for different pianos isn't really good for comparisons, as you'd probably play completely differently on different pianos. The instrument has a big impact on the performance, at least a good one does, in my opinion.
I don't quite follow what you are saying. A piano piece is a piano piece, and a pianist will try to play the way it feels it should be played, no matter what piano he/she is playing. The piece will not be played differently because of the piano - that's nonsense. If the piano gets in the way, then it's a bad piano.
Think there is definitely a feedback loop between piano and pianist. Perhaps not as pronounced as with a violin - but still. There is a reason why e.g. Horowitz only played on his own grand piano (that had to be shipped to whereever he was performing). Probably not because it was the most brilliant piano in the world but because he knew perfectly how it reacted. He didn't want to adapt anymore (but knew he would have to if it wasn't "his" piano).

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martinjuenke wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:37 pm Would be nice to have an aural comparision with other favourite piano plugins... :phones:
After having done audio demos of the the Ant. Petrof 275 model for Pianoteq 6.3.0 i now have also rendered the same audio demos using the Blüthner Model One model for Pianoteq, a custom preset for Arturia Piano V2 based on the "American Grand" model and a custom preset with all 4 mic positions for VI Labs Ravenscroft 275 which is the only sampled piano in this comparison (an also my favorite piano before i recently got Pianoteq 6 Stage...)...

Like with the previous audio demos the built-in reverbs were deactivated and as an external FX the Lexicon MPX Reverb was used in all audio demos (which is the only external FX that was used).

Here are the demos of those 4 pianos (the Ant. Petrof demos were already posted earlier):

1.) Ant. Petrof 275 model in Pianoteq 6.3.0 Stage, "Ant. Petrof 275" preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1


2.) Blüthner Model One model in Pianoteq 6.3.0 Stage, "Bluethner Model One BA" preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1


3.) Arturia Piano V2 (v2.1.0), "American Grand" model, my own custom preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1


4.) VI Labs Ravenscroft 275, custom preset with 4 mic positions:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1


NOTE:
The Dynamic range of the Ravenscroft 275 was kept at the default value that is close to the maximum amount which might result in a bigger dynamic range than that used for the other pianos. Due to that the Ravencroft 275 might sound a bit more quiet in certain poarts of the tracks/demos.

It would have been possible to adjust the piano parameters to each of the tracks but forthose audio demos the parameters were the same for all tracks. This is the case for all 4 pianos.


PS:
Currently i am checking which is my favorite of the 4 pianos for each of the 20 tracks. This then might end up in a kind of "ranking" for those pianos.
Last edited by Ingonator on Fri Oct 05, 2018 7:46 am, edited 2 times in total.
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A task done with great diligence! :clap:

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Wow!

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Congrats.

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*edited* (Will do another "favorites" list after doing audio demos for 2 more pianos)
Last edited by Ingonator on Fri Oct 05, 2018 1:28 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Really digging the Blüthner in some of these examples. Thanks for doing this :)

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sidrat wrote: Fri Oct 05, 2018 8:53 am Really digging the Blüthner in some of these examples. Thanks for doing this :)
The Bluthner is an old time favorite. If I buy the Petrof (which I might) it will be the one I will add to the package.

That said, my absolute favorite model in Pianoteq is still the Steinway D (which comes included by default in the package when we buy Pianoteq). It is fantastic, and with the right settings, it can rival even with recordings of real acoustic pianos. Steinway endorsed it for a reason.

I already compared the Petrof, as well as several other models, including the Bluthner, and also two others I already have, the Grotrian and the Steingraeber, using the Rachmaninoff Prelude Op. 2 No. 3 (which is still one of my favorite pieces for testing pianos, due to the extreme dynamic range reached during the piece, as well as several different writing/playing styles, one being full resonant chords, and the other very fast arpeggio like passages) and the Steinway still stand as my favorite. True that the sequence was created using it, and the preset was tweaked by me to better suit the sound I wanted, while in the others I always used the Prelude preset unmodified.
Fernando (FMR)

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Ingonator wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:56 pmLike with the previous audio demos the built-in reverbs were deactivated and as an external FX the Lexicon MPX Reverb was used in all audio demos (which is the only external FX that was used).
Be careful. Disabling all built-in reverb in Pianoteq may be effectively taking the sound as recorded in an anechoic chamber. I suspect that all sampled pianos are recorded in some kind of natural space and not in anechoic chambers.

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I now also rendered audio demos of the Steinway Model D and K2 for Pianoteq 6.3.0 that were included with the purchase of Pianoteq 6 Stage. FWIW I am not onlyt doing those audio demos to post them here but also to get some informations from them and sometimes i also just enjoy listening to those...

While trying to find my favorite of the 6 pianos for each of the 20 songs/tracks i also found ideas about how to improve e.g the custom presets used for VI Labs Ravenscroft 275 and Piano V2.
FWIW with the vast majority of the MIDI files used so far the Ant. Petrof 275 model for Pianoteq 6.3 was my favorite piano and also with the rest of the songs it sounded good. VI Labs Ravencroft 275 currently is at the 2nd place followed by Steinway Model D and Blüthner Model One (both Pianoteq 6.3).

At the VI Labs Ravenscroft 275 i adjusted the dynamics which does not really work with the "Dynamics" knob that by default is set to 96% but by adjusting the "Sensitivity" curve below that knob. Changing this from exponential to a logarithmic curve seems to help a lot to get the dynamics closer to that of the other pianos used for the audio demos. The quite good low end of the Ravenscroft 275 shines through much better that way.

While this is subjective based on the audio demos i might also have further improved my own custom preset for Arturia Piano V2. With the preset i used for the audio demos so far it did not perform really good compared to some of the other pianos while so far the K2 model for Pianoteq was the worst in that respect.
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Ingonator wrote: Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:56 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Tue Oct 02, 2018 7:37 pm Would be nice to have an aural comparision with other favourite piano plugins... :phones:
After having done audio demos of the the Ant. Petrof 275 model for Pianoteq 6.3.0 i now have also rendered the same audio demos using the Blüthner Model One model for Pianoteq, a custom preset for Arturia Piano V2 based on the "American Grand" model and a custom preset with all 4 mic positions for VI Labs Ravenscroft 275 which is the only sampled piano in this comparison (an also my favorite piano before i recently got Pianoteq 6 Stage...)...

Like with the previous audio demos the built-in reverbs were deactivated and as an external FX the Lexicon MPX Reverb was used in all audio demos (which is the only external FX that was used).

Here are the demos of those 4 pianos (the Ant. Petrof demos were already posted earlier):

1.) Ant. Petrof 275 model in Pianoteq 6.3.0 Stage, "Ant. Petrof 275" preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1


2.) Blüthner Model One model in Pianoteq 6.3.0 Stage, "Bluethner Model One BA" preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1


3.) Arturia Piano V2 (v2.1.0), "American Grand" model, my own custom preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1


4.) VI Labs Ravenscroft 275, custom preset with 4 mic positions:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1


NOTE:
The Dynamic range of the Ravenscroft 275 was kept at the default value that is close to the maximum amount which might result in a bigger dynamic range than that used for the other pianos. Due to that the Ravencroft 275 might sound a bit more quiet in certain poarts of the tracks/demos.

It would have been possible to adjust the piano parameters to each of the tracks but for those audio demos the parameters were the same for all tracks. This is the case for all 4 pianos.
UPDATE (07.10.2018):

I have also rendered those 20 MIDI files used for the other 4 pianos with the Steinway Model D and K2 Grand models for Pianoteq 6.3.0. Those 2 pianos were included with the purchase of Pianoteq 6 Stage.
Like with the other audio demos the external Lexicon MPX Reverb was used intead of the built-in one.

Additionally i also rendered the Rachmaninov Prelude Op.3 No. 2 based on a MIDI file that was provided at KVR by KVR member fmr a while ago (hopefuly i used the correct file this time...).

Here are the audio demos:

5.) Steinway Model D model in Pianoteq 6.3.0 Stage, "Steinway D Prelude" preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1


6.) K2 Grand model in Pianoteq 6.3.0 Stage, "K2 Prelude" preset:
Chopin - Etude Op. 10 No. 12 Revolutionary - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Chopin - Scherzo Op.39 No.3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Chopin - Nocturne Op. 27 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Mozart - Sonata No. 11 KV331 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Beethoven - Moonlight Sonata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Beethoven - Für Elise - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 1 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Beethoven - Appassionata Mov 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Debussy - Clair De Lune - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Liszt - Liebestraum No. 3 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Liszt - Paganini Etude No. 3 La Campanella - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Liszt & Schubert - Ave Maria - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Liszt - Etude Transcendentale Eroica - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Hans Zimmer - Interstellar Main Theme - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Yiruma - Kiss The Rain - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Jordan Rudess - Grand Illusion - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
David Bowie - Space Oddity - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
La La Land - City Of Stars - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1


Rachmaninov Prelude Op. 3 No.2 for all 6 pianos:
Rachmaninov - Prelude C#m Op. 3 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Ant. Petrof 275_1
Rachmaninov - Prelude C#m Op. 3 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Bluethner Model One BA_1
Rachmaninov - Prelude C#m Op. 3 No. 2 - Piano V2 - American Grand Hard 1 IW_1
Rachmaninov - Prelude C#m Op. 3 No. 2 - Ravenscroft 275 4 Mics_1
Rachmaninov - Prelude C#m Op. 3 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - Steinway D Prelude_1
Rachmaninov - Prelude C#m Op. 3 No. 2 - Pianoteq 6.3.0 - K2 Prelude_1
Ingo Weidner
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