need new weird Sampler

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KVRAF
3765 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Underworld

Post Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:22 pm

What I think is needed is a sampler that "emulates" an Akai sampler hierarchy, but is *not* Kontakt. Something simpler to use than Kontakt.

I'm currently using TOGU-Sampler a lot and I love it, but it's not multi-timbral and multi-output. It essentially emulates one classic sampler's "Program". It also lacks some simple things like hardware coded pitch and MW to vibrato. OTOH It sounds really good and it's really close, but the Vemberaudio ShortCircuit sampler was so much better. Perfect, except for some little niggles [attack on the samples was cut off too much so some drums would sound different]. They managed to make an incredibly great sampler ITB that's so incredibly easy to use and flexible with its mod matrix and sounds and looks good. Unfortunately, they stopped the development a long time ago so it's still x86 only. :(

So I suppose I'd really like to see a new "Shortcircuit" that's x64 and doesn't cut off the attack on samples. Just plays them as they are, unless you use the additional processing. That would be beyond awesome. Check out that sampler if you can. Just for the kicks. It's incredible and free. The user interface is soooooo well made! It's incredible how many functions they've managed to stuff into just one page! :tu: That's what we need these days. More of the samplers and synths that don't have 10 huge knobs that take the whole interface, but many easily accessible controls like this sampler. I'd make every synth or a sampler look like this one. :hyper:
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zoogoo
KVRist
438 posts since 21 Feb, 2006

Post Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:21 pm

Dasheesh wrote:I have this cd... 16 years old granular. Can we get better already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb6hsu1 ... 1K-t8&t=50
this music is bad ass. i love it. wish i saw his set up

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KVRAF
9095 posts since 5 Feb, 2004

Post Mon Mar 19, 2018 9:36 pm

I recently got Reason and I'm not that experienced with samplers, so I can't personally compare it to much, but I'm loving Grain, it is super easy to deal with and sounds great to me. How does that compare to the VSTs mentioned?

It does have a bit of an Emulator color scheme which I quite like.
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Dasheesh
KVRAF
3776 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:42 am

zoogoo wrote:
Dasheesh wrote:I have this cd... 16 years old granular. Can we get better already?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb6hsu1 ... 1K-t8&t=50
this music is bad ass. i love it. wish i saw his set up

pretty sure it's c sound and a lot of time sitting in front of a computer programming. At least that's what I remember from interviews at the time. of course guys were playing around with reaktor at the time too... so there may be some MAX and/or reaktor mixed in.

Dasheesh
KVRAF
3776 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:57 am

Why do I get the feeling I'm going to wind up buying Bliss before this thread is over?

Hey DSP... If you are still around. I like the granularizing in that example, can you designate multiple loop points and create multiple grains?

Asking for a friend. :clown:

Straight2Vinyl
KVRist
327 posts since 10 Mar, 2017

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:35 am

If you really like to do a ton of modulation and make tiny effects changes, then get Renoise. It's a DAW that's essentially a killer sampler with other functions added. Check out youtube tutorials to see some of what it can do with enough user expertise.
I've switched to using Reaper mainly as I mostly play large multi-sampled instruments from my keyboard now, but for sample mangling Renoise is amazing.

Dasheesh
KVRAF
3776 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:07 am

Dasheesh wrote:Why do I get the feeling I'm going to wind up buying Bliss before this thread is over?

Hey DSP... If you are still around. I like the granularizing in that example, can you designate multiple loop points and create multiple grains?

Asking for a friend. :clown:

I’m demoing it now... and it seems like it probably can. I just haven’t figured out how yet.

mholloway
KVRian
1438 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 7:28 am

Straight2Vinyl wrote:If you really like to do a ton of modulation and make tiny effects changes, then get Renoise. It's a DAW that's essentially a killer sampler with other functions added. Check out youtube tutorials to see some of what it can do with enough user expertise.
I've switched to using Reaper mainly as I mostly play large multi-sampled instruments from my keyboard now, but for sample mangling Renoise is amazing.
Or, since this is a thread about samplers, why not get Redux, which is *literally* the Renoise sampler in plugin form.

Also, it's freaking fantastic. And get this: it has an actual sample editor. You know, that sort of important part of a sampler that 90% of software samplers don't have? Ha. Renoise / Redux can destructively edit samples in a number of ways, it's a sampler + audio editor in that regard (though it used to be that all samplers were also audio editors, but times have changed).

Renoise / Redux is my favorite software sampler. It does lack some things, though, that people might need (e.g. no timestretch).

http://www.renoise.com/products/redux


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Dasheesh
KVRAF
3776 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:16 am

Whoa. That redux is nice. Great, another demo to install.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention though.

Dasheesh
KVRAF
3776 posts since 22 Nov, 2012

Post Tue Mar 20, 2018 10:24 am

Bliss has a high quality sample editor BTW.

auratone25
KVRer
1 posts since 23 Nov, 2009

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:05 am

Phaseplant does FM with samples, Backbone has a resynthesis thing going on. Have you ever thought of running your samples into Decimort . You can change bit and sample rate in that.

wakax
KVRAF
1832 posts since 22 Mar, 2002 from Timisoara, Romania

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:16 am

Polygon 2 is dirty/digital and fantastic! *just updated to v2
https://glitchmachines.com/products/polygon/

Form by NI
is something else:)
granular/resynth with a lot of depth. highly underrated!
https://www.native-instruments.com/en/p ... nths/form/

Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
4582 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 11:31 am

^^^
Interesting suggestions!
Thanks for providing links.

Thanks to all that provide links!
I and we appreciate the links.
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KVRAF
9201 posts since 16 Dec, 2002

Post Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:43 am

Palindrome is another bonkers sampler by Glitchmachines

Currently on sale at VSTBuzz

https://vstbuzz.com/deals/72-off-palind ... chmachines
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