Native Access

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generaldiomedes
KVRian
502 posts since 15 Apr, 2017 from Canada

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:17 am

I just find managing the install directories a royal pain. I wish companies would not make assumptions about how you structure your VST folders.

chk071
KVRAF
17016 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:33 am

generaldiomedes wrote:I just find managing the install directories a royal pain. I wish companies would not make assumptions about how you structure your VST folders.
Why? You can set - your plugin folder; your audio software folder, which hoards the plugin's application files; and your content folder, which hoards sample libraries and stuff. I don't find that very assumptive, rather exactly the way i use to set up the folders on my hard drive as well. I have my audio software in the Audio folder, my content in a Sample, or Content folder, and my plugins in a folder i name "VST".

DarkStar
KVRAF
8540 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:39 am

^^^
But many developers also add a folder in "My Documents" for various other files (presets, skins etc) and put a folder of shortcuts into "All Programs" (on Windows).
DarkStar
Interesting, if true ...

chk071
KVRAF
17016 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:42 am

True. And in Native Access, you can even set up that location, without the installer just assuming you'd want those files in your Documents folder. :P

noiseboyuk
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2410 posts since 25 Jan, 2007

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:18 am

perpetual3 wrote:
rasmusklump wrote:Tho world gets crazier and crazier. It seems people don't mind when a software is so crappy that it insists of downloading 100s of GBs that are already on the harddisk through a w-lan connection....
What app is that?
Er, Native Access.

True as well. It's extra crazy in that of course this burdens NI themselves with vastly increased and usually completely unnecessary bandwidth. A modern take on pointless waste.
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Jace-BeOS
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4661 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:33 am

Native Access is irritating me lately because it has zero facility to remove/uninstall products. Sure, I can manually remove them somewhat easily in Mac OS, but Native Access lists them as broken, then, and there's no way to remove them from the list.

Specifically, I wanted to remove Blocks Wired, because it's a duplication of content when you have the full Reaktor 6 install. I can't find any plist file to edit to remove this Native Access item. I manually removed the content from the system but the reference to broken Blocks Wired persists. No help found on the forum either.
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EvilDragon
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16892 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 10:38 am

Jace-BeOS wrote:but Native Access lists them as broken, then, and there's no way to remove them from the list.
There is, if you remove the product's XML file along with plist files. Search for "Reaktor Blocks Wired.xml" (I think it's called that, if not, just do a partial search for wired.xml instead) on your system drive and remove it.


(Agreed we should be able to easily uninstall from NA, though.)

AnX
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2994 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 11:19 am

An endless list of workarounds...

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EvilDragon
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16892 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:03 pm

Well, to put things into perspective, you couldn't uninstall directly even via Service Center.

AnX
KVRAF
2994 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:30 pm

EvilDragon wrote:Well, to put things into perspective, you couldn't uninstall directly even via Service Center.
Or install, or register serial to get a code....nightmare software. Thank the lord for refund policies.

v1o
KVRian
1090 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:36 pm

Yeah uninstalling NI plugins in Mac OS is a horror story. Installing them is so easy, but getting rid of them is so labour intensive. It’s like they purposely don’t want you to get rid of them like some malware.
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chk071
KVRAF
17016 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 12:59 pm

Quite easy on Windows here, via the Apps & Features dialogue...

glokraw
KVRAF
6481 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:55 pm

The main public difference between native access
and service center, is that native access
is still steaming...

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EvilDragon
KVRAF
16892 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 3:06 pm

AnX wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Well, to put things into perspective, you couldn't uninstall directly even via Service Center.
Or install, or register serial to get a code....nightmare software. Thank the lord for refund policies.
Well no, those things all work perfectly fine in SC. Methinks your computer is weird. :)

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KVRAF
5318 posts since 28 Apr, 2013

Re: Native Access

Post Sun Apr 15, 2018 5:08 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
AnX wrote:
EvilDragon wrote:Well, to put things into perspective, you couldn't uninstall directly even via Service Center.
Or install, or register serial to get a code....nightmare software. Thank the lord for refund policies.
Well no, those things all work perfectly fine in SC. Methinks your computer is weird. :)
Well no, install or update never worked worth a crap for me either. Authorization, works okay on both, but the rest was/is a nightmare. The only real difference between NA and SC is that NA demands you use it as the only way to get the software or a 'work-around' link is to do it through NA. At least with SC you could still log on to your account and download it directly.
SC was annoying.
NA is complete BS.


But hey, as long as it works for Mario, NI doesn't see a problem. :wink:

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