really terrible old sounds wanted

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kidkunjer
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10 posts since 4 Mar, 2012

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:23 am

weird question, I'm working on a video project for which I need to produce a terrible soundtrack similar to the sort of thing that they might have done in the 80s or on really poor productions. You know the sound of poorly emulated instruments that you got back in the day from the default midi soundfonts stuff, or cheap toy-ish synths. The more horrible and cheap sounding the better. Not like chiptune stuff or anything that can even ironically sound good, but really nasty.

Anyone know of a VST or a sample bank (pref free as its a no budget one off thing) that can reproduce these sounds? or even a tutorial on how to use synths "badly" on purpose...? I have heard somewhere that those crappy cheap synths used samples of fm synthesized stuff, so i think it must be possible... but i can't seem to find out how to do it.

Any tips or ideas? Would be much appreciated.

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layzer
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5734 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:35 am

what, like this?
https://youtu.be/WOSBA4AQPgY?t=138

just stream record it off the site. no vst or sample pack needed
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

kidkunjer
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10 posts since 4 Mar, 2012

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:40 am

that's the right sort of sound! but i want to make my own track etc. i presume those demo songs are copyrighted in some way, and also aren't quite the right feel. Would be better if i could compose my own thing... but its a great start thanks!

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wagtunes
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13911 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:42 am

Korg M1 and Wavestation might do it for you.

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Guenon
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1506 posts since 17 Jun, 2005

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:44 am

Hit your local flea markets and garage sales and pawn shops and so on, those oldie "bordering on being toys" keyboards can be a lot of fun :), and as an added bonus, you can open them up and experiment with their electronics if you're adventurous in that way, hehe.

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fluffy_little_something
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12568 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:49 am

layzer wrote:what, like this?
https://youtu.be/WOSBA4AQPgY?t=138

just stream record it off the site. no vst or sample pack needed
Holy shit :hihi:


Anyway, Roland sound canvas maybe...
https://www.roland.com/global/products/sound_canvas_va/

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Guenon
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1506 posts since 17 Jun, 2005

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:55 am

This is the one I had as a child :D (minus the circuit bending, of course) hahah https://youtu.be/r6ODrrkGDWI?t=142

Oh man, it makes me feel like I should hunt one of that exact model down and mod it like that.

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thecontrolcentre
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23169 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:04 am

Casio VL-Tone maybe? My first hardware keyboard :)
http://www.polyvalens.com/blog/vl-1/

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VariKusBrainZ
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8676 posts since 16 Dec, 2002

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:26 pm

Wags has a music thread, plenty old fashioned low quality sounds in there

sjm
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1734 posts since 17 Apr, 2004

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:36 pm

Any sort of wavestation as suggested above should be good. You could also try some OPL-type stuff. Or single (low bit?) samples mapped over the whole key range.
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DSmolken
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1408 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:38 pm

I love terrible movies! One of my favorite dubious 80s movie soundtracks is "Liquid Sky", made on a Fairlight that was made available to the public by New York's public library system. Basically, little time, and no studio or ability to add other instruments, just all Fairlight all the time. That's a weird one, though. Definitely not representative of what was typical in the era.

I'd get emulations of "good" early 80s synths, or even some 70s ones (for example "Robot Holocaust" had music recycled from "Laserblast" which I think was 1979), and just use them badly. Like, try to make the entire soundtrack with just a DX7, no effects other than tape saturation, and just lazily use presets with no modulation of parameters. Well, not so much lazily, as trying to get a lot of sound done very quickly. Avoid stuff that would have been new in the late 80s, which unfortunately would include the M1. And probably avoid toy synths or Casios, I don't really thiiiiink a lot of people making soundtracks in the 80s used those.

One of the beta testers of my Swirly Drums drum kit has somehow managed to befriend the guy who was responsible for the "Killer Workout" soundtrack. Though that was more rock/new wave, you could try to actually find the people who did some of those movies back in the day and pick their brains. Ask them what they actually used.

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layzer
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5734 posts since 11 Jun, 2006

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:42 pm

wagtunes wrote:Korg M1 and Wavestation might do it for you.
or omnisphere, better yet :tu:

but seriouslyif you're looking for cheesy emulated instrument sounds
look no further than the old FM isa sound card sounds.
theres a vst called juceOPLVSTi for that.

https://bsutherland.github.io/JuceOPLVSTi/
HW SYNTHS [KORG T2EX - AKAI AX80 - YAMAHA SY77 - ENSONIQ VFX]
HW MODULES [OBi M1000 - ROLAND MKS-50 - ROLAND JV880 - KURZ 1000PX]
SW [CHARLATAN - OBXD - OXE - ELEKTRO - MICROTERA - M1 - SURGE - RMiV]
DAW [ENERGY XT2/1U RACK WINXP / MAUDIO 1010LT PCI]

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Aloysius
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22434 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from a computer

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:50 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Wags has a music thread, plenty old fashioned low quality sounds in there
:lol:
This little piggy went to the butchers ...

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wagtunes
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13911 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:53 pm

VariKusBrainZ wrote:Wags has a music thread, plenty old fashioned low quality sounds in there
Hey man, you're funny. Curious, you can dish it out (I haven't said one word to you in I don't know how long, so you started this) but can you take it?

Most bullies can't.

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Aloysius
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22434 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from a computer

Re: really terrible old sounds wanted

Post Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:54 pm

I think it was just a joke but I could be wrong.
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