Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

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jancivil
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15371 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from No Location

Post Fri Apr 20, 2018 6:59 pm

I used Battery 3, which I like ok, for its rather thorough Indian and Arab percussion. Battery 4, meh. The push to electronica type of not drums turns me off (I no longer have my install disks with the content I'll use) and there isn't enough to warrant paying anything for it, for me.

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djshire
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621 posts since 11 Jun, 2011 from Detroit

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:39 am

There were several features that were removed in Battery 4. This video covers them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxcf5oMhNlA

One of the things that really pissed me off was the removal of several kits that could be used for composing, such as ethnic kits. I have both 3 and 4 installed, and I use both.

4 has the advantage in that, as mentioned, a lot of people make kits for it (including NI itself in its Expansions series).

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jancivil
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:56 am

Yeah, 100% of what I was using is gone and instead there's a lot of insta-delete electronica stuff.

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martinjuenke
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2210 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Germany

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:58 am

I remember there were MIDI files attached to each kit to demonstrate their sound range. They vanished as well...
Does anybody know where to find these MIDI files again?

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wagtunes
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:59 pm

Is there any way to get the old stuff and put it into Battery 4?

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jancivil
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:26 pm

I've used the old stuff in it, I just don't have it anymore. That's a good question, how to get it. It was about install disks in the box, I have not seen any way to access it via NI.

EnGee
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4789 posts since 7 Oct, 2005 from New Zealand

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm

I have Battery 3 as well. I haven't used it a lot, but I remember that I liked it more than Battery 4 so that I bought it second hand and the seller uploaded two files (one is about 4.5 GB and the other is about 7.5 GB!!) for me to be able to install the contents. That's a lot of contents :o

I don't think there is any midi files with it (or with v.4), but there are demos which are loops. Anyway, I have noticed that Groove Monkee patterns are a great match with Battery, especially the acoustic kits).

I might install version 3 again soon as I remember it has more acoustic/world kits.

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MarkushE
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11 posts since 26 Aug, 2011

Re: Battery still Rocks in 2018!

Post Sat Jun 09, 2018 11:37 am

Battery 4 is still rockin in 2018!

Its a no fuss sampler and best so far on the market, and trust me I've bought a few turkeys!

I found a bit of a random site but has a couple of seriously grooving MIDI loops drum packs for Battery 4 House/tech House/Techno etc

http://www.Evilglamour.com

They've got some great patterns/grooves just using the preset Kits, ive learnt so much just from these pattens!
Both packs are £3 each well worth it just get some decent MIDI loops just for Battery 4 at last! :):):)


https://www.evilglamour.com/products/ev ... use-unlock


https://www.evilglamour.com/product...n ... midi-files

New pack added

https://www.evilglamour.com/products/ev ... drum-loops

Cheers


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fedexnman
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sat Jun 09, 2018 12:27 pm

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Jace-BeOS
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4683 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sun Jun 10, 2018 8:13 am

djshire wrote:There were several features that were removed in Battery 4. This video covers them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxcf5oMhNlA

One of the things that really pissed me off was the removal of several kits that could be used for composing, such as ethnic kits. I have both 3 and 4 installed, and I use both.

4 has the advantage in that, as mentioned, a lot of people make kits for it (including NI itself in its Expansions series).
Those changes are asinine. It reeks of "lazy GUI overhaul". It happens a lot (features fail to be recreated when a GUI is massively redone), especially in larger companies (more pressure to put new product on market).

Sometimes the product itself isn't even the same (same product name, different code base), and they only re-implement the most obvious features, waiting to see how much complaint there is about lost features, and then only replacing those that generate the most outrage.

Have any of those lost functions been put back since 2014 when the video was made?
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Dewdman42
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1478 posts since 14 Mar, 2006

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:26 am

wagtunes wrote:Is there any way to get the old stuff and put it into Battery 4?
If you have install DVD's for battery 3, then you can install it and you can convert-load the battery 3 content into Battery 4 as a User Library. I do not know how you can obtain Battery 3 now if you don't already have the DVD's...I can't remember which version of Komplete was the last one to have it.. maybe version 8?

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:00 am

Dewdman42 wrote:
wagtunes wrote:Is there any way to get the old stuff and put it into Battery 4?
If you have install DVD's for battery 3, then you can install it and you can convert-load the battery 3 content into Battery 4 as a User Library. I do not know how you can obtain Battery 3 now if you don't already have the DVD's...I can't remember which version of Komplete was the last one to have it.. maybe version 8?
Can this be done in bulk? If so, do you have a link to the instructions?

Cheers :tu:

Dewdman42
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:03 am

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MarkushE
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11 posts since 26 Aug, 2011

Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:01 pm

Anyone using Kontact??
I've tried but just not feeling it! Battery is so uncomplicated it allows you to move fast and remain creative!

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Battery 4 sucks in 2018?

Post Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:04 pm

Thanks, man! Really appreciate it :tu:

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