KVR Audio

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:14 pm

mladi wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:12 pm So you can still by a beta with no support and further updates on SoundGuru webpage? That is pretty lame: Maybe change his name to MoneyGuru to reflect the reality a bit? LOL

Lame is being kind. I honestly don't know how Tom can do what he's doing and sleep at night. But, whatever.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:00 pm

Is it worth buying even if it is abandoned?

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:04 pm

Halonmusic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:00 pm Is it worth buying even if it is abandoned?

Not if you can't get it to work. I wouldn't at this point. Lots of people seem to be having problems with it.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:09 pm

wagtunes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:04 pm
Halonmusic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:00 pm Is it worth buying even if it is abandoned?
Not if you can't get it to work. I wouldn't at this point. Lots of people seem to be having problems with it.

Thanks Steven. I should download the demo.

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:13 pm

I wouldn't neither, just cause I find if pretty unethical to sell an unfinished beta product without any support of any kind. So you basically play russian roulette ans GIVE money to the guy. This guy shouldn't have a dime again for his broken toy.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:17 pm

Neon Breath wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:13 pm I wouldn't neither, just cause I find if pretty unethical to sell an unfinished beta product without any support of any kind. So you basically play russian roulette ans GIVE money to the guy. This guy shouldn't a dime again for his broken toy.

Can't agree more. Anybody who buys this thing, knowing what the situation is, is either an idiot or has money to throw away that they don't care about.

I hope Tom has a good paying job now because he's pretty much burned every bridge imaginable as far as ever making it as a software developer ever again.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:18 pm

Hmm think i'll just spend my money elsewhere then.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Halonmusic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:18 pm Hmm think i'll just spend my money elsewhere then.

Smart decision.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:21 pm

You know what's ironic. Of my 78 sound libraries, The Mangle is my 18th best seller. At one point, while Tom was still active, it was in my top 10. That's the shame of all of this. He had a good thing going and he just threw it all away.

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:23 pm

Quanta, glitchmachines palindrome and new sonic arts granite are the best I can think quickly.

wagtunes · Post by **wagtunes** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:24 pm

Distorted Horizon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 13, 2019 6:23 pm Quanta, glitchmachines palindrome and new sonic arts granite are the best I can think quickly.

I have Granite (won it in their raffle) and don't like it at all. The sound is harsh and it doesn't have near the flexibility of other granular synths.

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:08 pm

Seems he is a speaker at ADC London.

https://adc19.sched.com/event/T1P7/immu ... -sequencer

Neon Breath · Post by **Neon Breath** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:13 pm

''Now I'm working on an interactive sequencer and music composition environment''

By the way you handled your business with Mangle, good luck with that dude.

pottering · Post by **pottering** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:24 pm

edit: nevermind, better not post mere speculations

sinkmusic · Post by **sinkmusic** » Fri Sep 13, 2019 7:49 pm

While i find sad to see Mangle and Tangle abandonware, I think it is a bit harsh : the software on his website have demos (so you can try them before buying), and the price is quite cheap (so it's a bit unfair to think that he's getting rich with selling £19 plugins).
Of course, I wish he would answer e-mails (he doesn't), release updates (he doesn't), and keep amazing software alive (he doesn't).
But, well, as the "released-as-is" plugins were quite popular a couple years ago, I find rather nice to have kept them online, as some users can still enjoy it.
My point is : I would have been pissed off if he had claimed to released updates on a regular basis (but that's not the case), or if'd charge 199$ for unsupported software without demos (but that's not the case), or had taken his site down without prior notice because he can't support his plugins...

The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?