The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

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raiderpdog
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19 posts since 26 Jul, 2018

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:04 am

JoaquinAce wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:39 pm
i have v1.1.1 and it works fine. Maybe I got lucky.
same here, bought it in June, so lucked out too. Pretty cool machine.

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c_voltage
KVRian
1440 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 8:19 am

wagtunes wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:46 am
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:42 pm
wagtunes wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:24 am
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am
Quanta, glitchmachines palindrome and new sonic arts granite are the best I can think quickly.
I have Granite (won it in their raffle) and don't like it at all. The sound is harsh and it doesn't have near the flexibility of other granular synths.
It's silky smooth drone machine :tu:
For you maybe. Not for me.
Can add not often mentioned kontakt based Granulate 2 (now at 20% sale btw).
(About Granite - i had not a very good feelings too)

Added
About Quanta - not t a bat thing but during tried demo it seemed to me as good for pads (and only for it), but bad for clean single "scan", due to some specific character of his reading algo.

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KVRAF
1883 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:07 am

I forgot I even had this. Any chance someone will do libraries for the Mangle?
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

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Distorted Horizon
KVRAF
2647 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:17 am

Ah I forgot.. Granular in Reason is very nice too.

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wagtunes
KVRAF
17233 posts since 8 Oct, 2014

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:11 am

v1o wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:07 am
I forgot I even had this. Any chance someone will do libraries for the Mangle?
I did a library for it.

https://soundcloud.com/steven-wagenheim ... 50-samples

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polarsky
KVRist
96 posts since 24 Jan, 2016

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:20 am

Atco wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:08 am
I purchased and dowloaded The Mangle 6/9/2019. I received an e-mail thanking me for my purchase and a download code..Following the instructions exactly I loaded the mangle into Ableton 10 live suite 64 bit. On checking my plugins folder there it was Mangle 64. After loading it to a track I found what I had was the Demo version which after much pushing of buttons I got a preset to work but not without faults. Thinking I had made a mistake I reloaded the product taking screen shots of the process..Result..No change except I was unable to load a preset. I loaded a sample which again after much prompting was able to play but not without obvious faults. 5 times I tried the process of installalation. Same result. I e-mailed Tom at Sound Guru for advice. No reply..After contacting KVR explaining the problem, today I received notification via KVR to the effect that. Tom has abandoned the project as he now has a job and could not cope with the number of e-mails he received. However it would seem he can cope with accepting money for the product and generating a reply thanking you for purchasing the Mangle and including a download code + instructions. This is totally out of order and has left me angry..I intend taking steps via Paypal for reimbursement of the money..So be warned if you are thinking of buying any product from Sound Guru..
If you were previously using the demo did you delete the VST from your plugins folder first? The full installer may not be overwriting it.

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Halonmusic
KVRAF
2877 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:31 am

wagtunes wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:20 am
Halonmusic wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:18 am
Hmm think i'll just spend my money elsewhere then.
Smart decision.
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polarsky
KVRist
96 posts since 24 Jan, 2016

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:56 am

Working fine in Ableton 10 here, just checked the old Mangle thread, the issue was brought up that the full installer doesn't overwrite previous installs

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c_voltage
KVRian
1440 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:10 pm

Distorted Horizon wrote:
Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:17 am
Ah I forgot.. Granular in Reason is very nice too.
Yes,cool thing, especially spectral mode.

nichttuntun
KVRian
792 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:13 am

wagtunes wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:07 am
Neon Breath wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:06 am
wagtunes wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 9:00 am
Neon Breath wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:53 am
wagtunes wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 8:50 am
This is really a shame because the non demo version works fine (on my end anyway) and it's really the best granular synth out there. But Tom has REALLY dropped the ball on this thing.
Depends on your point of view. I own many granular synths and I don't feel it's 'the best' at all. Fun, sure but far away from the best imo. It's been surpassed by many other great ones I think. (and especially since we know it's abandoneware now and still buggy and half baked. Cannot be the best in my book for these reasons)
Like you said, depends on your point of view. I own Padshop Pro and HALion 6 and, IMO, neither is as good. I also have a few Reaktor based ones. Also not as happy with them.

But sure, if the thing is buggy (Mine isn't) then yeah, you're not going to be happy with it.

Guess I'm one of the lucky ones.

Bottom Line: I would not trade The Mangle for any other granular synth that I own.
I suggest to give Audio Damge Quanta a try. It sounds very good and can sound as rich and buttery smooth as Mangle, its workflow is much better in term for playability and creativity. And the best: it's still supported & updated :hihi:
For a hundred bucks? Yeah, no thanks.
But it´s really good. Going down all the granular-way you will need Crusher-X anyway. No way around :)
Cheers

nichttuntun
KVRian
792 posts since 22 Nov, 2017

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:17 am

Distorted Horizon wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:23 am
Quanta, glitchmachines palindrome and new sonic arts granite are the best I can think quickly.
Quanta: good and quick to work with
Palnindrome: absolutely amazing - a kind of it´s own

Top of the Iceberg: Crusher-X

:party:

Neon Breath
KVRAF
3409 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: The Mangle (SoundGuru), is it still alive ?

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:58 am

nichttuntun wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:17 am

Top of the Iceberg: Crusher-X

:party:
+167

Especially since, and that a lot of people don't know, it can also be used as a synth by loading in it samples and not just used an insert incoming audio effect.
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