Best Low Price V.A. Soft Synth
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- KVRAF
- 35434 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I was extremely disappointed with Codex. How does Element compare to the likes of Diva and such?
Oh well… the sound examples shown here: https://www.amazona.de/test-waves-eleme ... nthesizer/ don't quite knock me out of the shoes. Especially when i then think about that Waves software manager, and that i already own gazillions of similar synths.
Oh well… the sound examples shown here: https://www.amazona.de/test-waves-eleme ... nthesizer/ don't quite knock me out of the shoes. Especially when i then think about that Waves software manager, and that i already own gazillions of similar synths.
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- KVRist
- 233 posts since 21 Jul, 2016
There's also Dagger (made by the same people as Sunrizer). It's a monosynth, but very nice,
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 16 May, 2018
Awesome, thanks! Yea, sunrizer has really nice filters + oscillators. Fathom's another favorite, I have the free monophonic version. I'll add the others to the demo list!wagtunes wrote:Lots of good cheap synths. I personally love Sunrizer.
Here's my list to check out.
ACE
Carbon Electra
Element 2
Fathom
Sonigen Modular (free)
Synth1 (free)
Synthmaster (often goes on sale for $50)
Tyrell N6 (free)
Codex is a wavetable synth, wasn't really my thing. Diva is next level, at 150, supposedly one of the best next to arturia and such. Definitely not in my price range. I wish, maybe someday.chk071 wrote:I was extremely disappointed with Codex. How does Element compare to the likes of Diva and such?
I actually thought dagger sounded really good from the sound demos, however when I demoed it, I was trying waves element 2 at the same time and thought dagger didn't quite compare to element. I'll try it again though, maybe I just didn't spend enough time with it.counterparty wrote:There's also Dagger (made by the same people as Sunrizer). It's a monosynth, but very nice,
Lot's of suggestions, thanks everyone!
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- KVRAF
- 1591 posts since 21 Apr, 2017 from Bahia, Brazil
Element imho is more responsive than Codex. More efficient as well. You cant really tell by the demos. Its the finite tweeks that really make the difference. Thats where Tal unolx, Diva and Repro excell as well.. Element2 is definitely in that class.chk071 wrote:I was extremely disappointed with Codex. How does Element compare to the likes of Diva and such?
Oh well… the sound examples shown here: https://www.amazona.de/test-waves-eleme ... nthesizer/ don't quite knock me out of the shoes. Especially when i then think about that Waves software manager, and that i already own gazillions of similar synths.
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- KVRAF
- 35434 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Keep an eye on the Sell & Buy forum here. There's sometimes a Diva license available for below $100. New, it's definitely too expensive for me too.philsynth wrote:Diva is next level, at 150, supposedly one of the best next to arturia and such. Definitely not in my price range. I wish, maybe someday.
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
+1 although I don't consider it a VA. The MSEG's are really nice to create Flat beat like sequences.wagtunes wrote: Carbon Electra
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
It is not comparable to Diva, RePro or The Legend IMO! It has a nice round and 'pleasant' sound mostly for leads and plucks (nice for sequencing and Arps), but I can't say it has a fat sound neither it is a weak sound.chk071 wrote:I was extremely disappointed with Codex. How does Element compare to the likes of Diva and such?
Oh well… the sound examples shown here: https://www.amazona.de/test-waves-eleme ... nthesizer/ don't quite knock me out of the shoes. Especially when i then think about that Waves software manager, and that i already own gazillions of similar synths.
It is nice to play around with it, but I didn't find it useful to choose it in actual music making. I always substitute it with another synth. So, it ended unused mostly and uninstalled (with Codex as well!). So, in the end not so useful for me and can't imagine it to be my main synth even if I don't have any commercial synth (I would prefer to use freeware and magware instead as my main synths). In the end it depends on the taste.
By the way, I checked the link you posted and I think from No. 10 it is mostly this is what you get (a little bit better actually than those tracks!).
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 16 May, 2018
Awesome, thanks. I guess Element is technically normally 120.Scrubbing Monkeys wrote: Thats where Tal unolx, Diva and Repro excell as well.. Element2 is definitely in that class.
Cool, cool. Good suggestion.chk071 wrote: Keep an eye on the Sell & Buy forum here. There's sometimes a Diva license available for below $100.
Thanks. Carbon Electra seems popular. I'll demo it next.Stefken wrote: +1 although I don't consider it a VA. The MSEG's are really nice to create Flat beat like sequences.
Cool, thanks. What freeware/magware synths would you suggest rather than element 2?EnGee wrote: So, in the end not so useful for me and can't imagine it to be my main synth even if I don't have any commercial synth (I would prefer to use freeware and magware instead as my main synths). In the end it depends on the taste.
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- KVRAF
- 35434 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Thanks Scrubbing Monkeys and EnGee for both of your opinion. Frankly, judging purely by sound demos, it sounds a tad more on the digital/thin side. Again, i have so many, also free synths, with more or less the same features, which sound good to my ears, and i passionately hate Waves Center, TBH.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 16 May, 2018
Hey, I noticed some of you guys are creating opinions based on sound demos alone. I actually went through the painful process of downloading the waves installer and tried element 2, and though I'm not saying it's an amazing synth or anything, I just wanna establish that it's amazing synth compared to any of the element demos on the internet. So keep that in mind, perception is everything. Know what I'm saying? However, I'm definitely open to any suggestions of free synths better than a 30 dollar synth lol. Just name them and I'll check them out.chk071 wrote:Thanks Scrubbing Monkeys and EnGee for both of your opinion. Frankly, judging purely by sound demos, it sounds a tad more on the digital/thin side. Again, i have so many, also free synths, with more or less the same features, which sound good to my ears, and i passionately hate Waves Center, TBH.
[Edit] I guess I'm just curious to see what freeware synth you guys (Engee and Ch) think are better than element, because it could save me alot of money. lol
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
The only way to really evaluate a synth and to see whether it is your thing, is to demo it.philsynth wrote:Hey, I noticed some of you guys are creating opinions based on sound demos alone. .chk071 wrote:Thanks Scrubbing Monkeys and EnGee for both of your opinion. Frankly, judging purely by sound demos, it sounds a tad more on the digital/thin side. Again, i have so many, also free synths, with more or less the same features, which sound good to my ears, and i passionately hate Waves Center, TBH.
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- KVRAF
- 8802 posts since 7 Oct, 2005
Well, you already have one freeware that I use (PG-8X). This is the only freeware installed currently in my PC.philsynth wrote: Cool, thanks. What freeware/magware synths would you suggest rather than element 2?
For magware, I already mentioned them But I'll repeat them! DuneCM, BazilleCM and AaltoCM (monophonic though). I purchased Aalto the full version after I fell in love with the CM version, but the full version is a CPU hog little bit! Those are not emulations of analog synths! But they are excellent synths.
Anyway, you can demo Element 2 for one week I think (full version). So it is better to play with it for a while, you might like it, as I said, after all it depends on personal taste
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- KVRian
- 662 posts since 12 Jul, 2013
Bazille CM / Beatzille is a beast! If you know your way around basic (virtual) analog synths you can do an awful lot with it. There are also some very handy Tips & Tricks in the Bazille manual e.g. how to add pulse width modulation.philsynth wrote: Cool, thanks. What freeware/magware synths would you suggest rather than element 2?
Tyrell N°6 has already been mentioned and there are some nice free preset packs available at http://www.theunfinished.co.uk/free/.
And don't let the information on the CM page fool you, Dune CM is also included in 64bit
I encourage anyone to simply try the free 7-Day trial.chk071 wrote: [...]Oh well… the sound examples shown here: https://www.amazona.de/test-waves-eleme ... nthesizer/ don't quite knock me out of the shoes.[...]
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 29 posts since 16 May, 2018
For real, the best sounding demos I think are the Korg (I even previously mentioned it). However I have a suspicion it's because they're a super legit professional synth manufacturer lol.Stefken wrote: The only way to really evaluate a synth and to see whether it is your thing, is to demo it.
Ha, ha for sure, for sure. Sorry, so many synths! I guess I'm slightly defensive of Element because I've been using the free trial and imo it's quite good compared to my free synths. However yea, I guess it's personal preference. Pg8x is coincidentally probably my favorite free synth filter.EnGee wrote: Well, you already have one freeware that I use (PG-8X). This is the only freeware installed currently in my PC.
For magware, I already mentioned them But I'll repeat them! DuneCM, BazilleCM and AaltoCM (monophonic though).
I guess I didn't understand magware. I thought I could only download those synths from the monthly issue? Or are they still available? I haven't found them on google. I'm not familiar with magware.
[Edit] So it says I download the latest computer magazine issue then I'm able to download all the previous CM synths from the vault?
It's 7:30 am and i haven't slept yet, so maybe it isn't as complicated as it seems, however it says, "Our Zinio edition does not include the DVD but - FROM ISSUE 182 (October 2012) onwards - it DOES INCLUDE the full software, samples and tutorial files to download." So when I purchase this current issue, I receive every plugin from 2012 until now? That's crazy. Is that what's happening? lol
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