One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music (Schiing Wins!)

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Eauson
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Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:24 pm

functionform wrote:
Eauson wrote:Okay, so I am trying to play chords and I am getting a click on them, as if the release is not completeing and causes a click, if I turn down release its not there. I know I could make another version of sound and reduce release, just wondering of anyone else is finding this?
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Is there a way to retrig the env1? As attempt at another version just doesn't sound right.
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Its more noticeable when LFO 2 retrig is on, which I only have on amp 1 centre, it doesn't completely clear up.
Will add more as I find.
I have been able to get some clicks as well, but I can't seem to reproduce them consistently. I stay away from 0 attack also as well as keeping up the polyphony count just in case its voice stealing thats causing it.
Yes, its as weird one, some notes seem to catch a click on lower notes, the shorter percussion types are ok, trying to play a fast chord movement can cause issues, I've started breaking down chords to single instance, like I tried previously on mono fathom, still no joy. I have also turned off all lfo"'s and tried to simplify the patch with mixed results. Oh well, back t the drawing board...
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schiing
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:32 pm

Eauson, I just remembered: On one of my patches I had some clicking problems that was caused by the pan settings. If they're activated you might want to try resetting them to zero.

Eauson
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:47 pm

schiing wrote:Eauson, I just remembered: On one of my patches I had some clicking problems that was caused by the pan settings. If they're activated you might want to try resetting them to zero.
Thanks, I'll give it a go, have mainly used the centre settings as it give a good fast pan effect on pads, hats, percs depending on amount.
I think its going to be trial and error, probably get 100 scrooo's and the track will be really simple, just where the clicks are on their own instance :D
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Full Bucket
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544 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Thu Jul 05, 2018 11:59 pm

Eauson wrote:[...]the clicks[...]
This was a tough one, but I finally managed to get rid of the clicks. :ud:
Please download the scrooo version 1.2.2.

Cheers, Björn

Eauson
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 12:49 am

Full Bucket wrote:
Eauson wrote:[...]the clicks[...]
This was a tough one, but I finally managed to get rid of the clicks. :ud:
Please download the scrooo version 1.2.2.

Cheers, Björn
Thanks eversomuch: D
:tu: :clap: :party: :phones:
I would add more but :) < v happy √√
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Full Bucket
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:09 am

No problem, sorry for the inconvenience. :oops:

Cheers, Björn

Eauson
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 1:30 am

Full Bucket wrote:No problem, sorry for the inconvenience. :oops:

Cheers, Björn
Its me who should be :oops: as I have loaded the new version up and on certain sounds now the click is there, when it wasn't before.
I think its the way I have used your wonderful creation and I may have been a total :clown:
Mainly because of what I have tried to make which is a bass driven 4×4 thingamajig.
Aghhh, :help: :pray: 4 da :oops: :clown: that is me
Well, I will load my track and hope and :pray:
Mutha future wot a total numpty I am.

I will upload and then have another go, will report back.
I'm v sorry. :(

Here it is
https://soundcloud.com/eauson/fullbucke ... oo-kvr-osc

Details to follow
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functionform
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217 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia

Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:11 am

Ack I'm getting some new clicks too. I'll have to investigate closer later.

edit: looks like it was caused by Env 2 doing FM on my kick which is just a 8, 35, 12, 29 amp env. My env two was set up as 0, 0, 18, 0, 0. Any sort of FM on the kick formant results in scratchiness, not sure if it was like this before or is intended. Formant 1 settings, 1, 0, 184, 0.

preset Poly: Bell Piano also clicks for me now. Poly: Duck Bell also clicks. A few others display clicking I don't believe I heard before.

Eauson
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:34 am

Eauson wrote:
Full Bucket wrote:No problem, sorry for the inconvenience. :oops:

Cheers, Björn
Its me who should be :oops: as I have loaded the new version up and on certain sounds now the click is there, when it wasn't before.
I think its the way I have used your wonderful creation and I may have been a total :clown:
Mainly because of what I have tried to make which is a bass driven 4×4 thingamajig.
Aghhh, :help: :pray: 4 da :oops: :clown: that is me
Well, I will load my track and hope and :pray:
Mutha future wot a total numpty I am.

I will upload and then have another go, will report back.
I'm v sorry. :(

Here it is
https://soundcloud.com/eauson/fullbucke ... oo-kvr-osc

Details to follow
I think I'm gonna start again :(
Thanks to all who listened :)
functionform wrote:Ack I'm getting some new clicks too. I'll have to investigate closer later.

edit: looks like it was caused by Env 2 doing FM on my kick which is just a 8, 35, 12, 29 amp env. My env two was set up as 0, 0, 18, 0, 0. Any sort of FM on the kick formant results in scratchiness, not sure if it was like this before or is intended. Formant 1 settings, 1, 0, 184, 0.

preset Poly: Bell Piano also clicks for me now. Poly: Duck Bell also clicks. A few others display clicking I don't believe I heard before.
Gonna check this out :tu:
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schiing
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:56 am

Eauson wrote: I think I'm gonna start again :(
Thanks to all who listened :)
Oh, no, I hope you'll keep the groove in somehow - that was pretty cool!

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Full Bucket
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544 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:34 am

functionform wrote:Ack I'm getting some new clicks too. I'll have to investigate closer later.

edit: looks like it was caused by Env 2 doing FM on my kick which is just a 8, 35, 12, 29 amp env. My env two was set up as 0, 0, 18, 0, 0. Any sort of FM on the kick formant results in scratchiness, not sure if it was like this before or is intended. Formant 1 settings, 1, 0, 184, 0.

preset Poly: Bell Piano also clicks for me now. Poly: Duck Bell also clicks. A few others display clicking I don't believe I heard before.
Indeed, my fix makes (some) things even worse... back to the drawing board. :dog:
Meanwhile I restored v1.2.1 on my website.

Sorry + Cheers,
Björn

functionform
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217 posts since 13 May, 2017 from Virginia

Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:46 am

No worries! Thanks for looking into it!

Eauson
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:56 am

schiing wrote:
Eauson wrote: I think I'm gonna start again :(
Thanks to all who listened :)
Oh, no, I hope you'll keep the groove in somehow - that was pretty cool!
I'll give it a go, just listening to it, just seems a bit odd, its only drm14 which is pretty good. Maybe a little play about might improve it to make me a bit happier.
So :phones: :party: :pray: 8) :D
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Eauson
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Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 10:58 am

Full Bucket wrote:
functionform wrote:Ack I'm getting some new clicks too. I'll have to investigate closer later.

edit: looks like it was caused by Env 2 doing FM on my kick which is just a 8, 35, 12, 29 amp env. My env two was set up as 0, 0, 18, 0, 0. Any sort of FM on the kick formant results in scratchiness, not sure if it was like this before or is intended. Formant 1 settings, 1, 0, 184, 0.

preset Poly: Bell Piano also clicks for me now. Poly: Duck Bell also clicks. A few others display clicking I don't believe I heard before.
Indeed, my fix makes (some) things even worse... back to the drawing board. :dog:
Meanwhile I restored v1.2.1 on my website.

Sorry + Cheers,
Björn
Thanks Björn, your synth are a joy, blooo is my GOTO, so scroo will more than likely be the same. :D
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Full Bucket
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544 posts since 25 May, 2010 from Hessisch Uganda, Germany

Re: One Synth Challenge #113: The Scrooo by Full Bucket Music

Post Fri Jul 06, 2018 11:02 am

Eauson wrote:Thanks Björn, your synth are a joy, blooo is my GOTO, so scroo will more than likely be the same. :D
Thank you! The scrooo is a nasty ba$tard, you really have to watch out when to update anything or else the oscillators start in the middle of a crude waveform, giving you clicks'n'dirt... :x

Cheers, Björn

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