Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

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DrEntropy
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:40 am

Touch The Universe wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:37 am
Any news on whether there will be expandable modules, like blocks?
There is a faq on the same page which says (in answer to the question, will it be modular?):
"No, MASSIVE X is not modular. But you can swap different DSP components (oscillators, filters, effects, envelopes, LFOs, and more)."

I think this means no.

TaylorSN
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:44 am

These guys have twisted sense of humor, that’s for sure.

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Touch The Universe
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:46 am

Depends, modular might mean infinitely expandable, like any amount of filters or oscillators. Would it still be modular if there are a fixed number of slots that can have different components?

If not, I'm curious to know what they mean by "more expandable".
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:52 am

Btw, it's no more February
Native Instruments wrote: Back in September we announced that MASSIVE X would arrive in February. Unfortunately, when building such a complex instrument, things can take longer than expected, so we’ve taken the difficult decision to delay the release until June.
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Caine123
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:00 am

I hate too early announcements with such products...
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chk071
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:02 am

Caine123 wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:00 am
I hate too early announcements with such products...
Don't get all hyped up the next time then. :shrug:

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EvilDragon
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:18 am

Touch The Universe wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:46 am
Depends, modular might mean infinitely expandable, like any amount of filters or oscillators. Would it still be modular if there are a fixed number of slots that can have different components?

If not, I'm curious to know what they mean by "more expandable".
It has fully modular wiring between the modules it has, but fixed number of slots you can fill in (but modulators don't take up those slots, they are always there). They can always add new modules to choose from down the road. That's the way I see it. There's no reason to open it to 3rd parties, they have Reaktor for that.

Stefken
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:24 am

I find the visual hierarchy confusing.
It's like there were no guidelines where to put knobs, how big they should be, when to use a grey one or a black one.
It's like different teams could make their modules as they wished and at the end we all throw it together.

I know it has kind of a modular approach but that doesn't mean you can't get this more streamlined.
Look at that lfo switcher, how much space it takes... The envelopes also take a lot of space. So You'll need a huge screen surface when you like using 3 envelopes and 3 lfo's.
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chk071
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:28 am

I'm not exactly enthusiastic about the GUI either. But, maybe it's better in action. Wouldn't be the first time. :)

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EvilDragon
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:33 am

Stefken wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:24 am
I know it has kind of a modular approach but that doesn't mean you can't get this more streamlined.
Look at that lfo switcher, how much space it takes... The envelopes also take a lot of space. So You'll need a huge screen surface when you like using 3 envelopes and 3 lfo's.
You can only see 3 modulators at a time, if you take a closer look. Envs and LFOs are interchangeable, that's why LFOs look that big. Only the first of the 9 modulators there is always an envelope (obligatory amp envelope), the others are switchable between env of LFO. Even says so below the image. I'd venture a guess that "standard envelope" is just one of possible modulator types - there could be an MSEG there, too. But, these all need to conform to the same UI restraints in order to always be able to show 3 modulators at a time.

Atlatnesiti
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:41 am

NI shouldn’t jump the gun with Feb release date. Projected June release is just couple months away from Komplete 13, but I guess they needed something special to sell Komplete 12. Lucky I didn’t bought the upgrade, will happily wait for ver 13 now.

Cinebient
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:42 am

Not surprised about the delay since it is almost always the same with such announced deadlines.
So i also would not bet it will be ready this year :)
So far i really like what i see about the GUI.

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liv
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:02 pm

The mentioned fact that Mike Daliot is behind it oozes quality.
I'm sure it will be superb, again.

noiseboyuk
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Re: Native Instruments Massive X Synth - Sequel to Massive

Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:02 pm

Atlatnesiti wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:41 am
NI shouldn’t jump the gun with Feb release date. Projected June release is just couple months away from Komplete 13, but I guess they needed something special to sell Komplete 12. Lucky I didn’t bought the upgrade, will happily wait for ver 13 now.
Highly unlikely. The gap between 11 and 12 was 2 years, and they haven't even finished 12 yet - they won't do so until June. I'd lay money on 13 not appearing until 2020, likely the autumn again.
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Post Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:08 pm

Doing an upgrade/bundle package with perhaps the most interesting part of the bundle coming almost a year later seems strange, reminds me of when they used to do that 'Komplete care' thing when you paid a yearly fee and then got any updates they launched free....
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