Manufacturer Demos - Limitations? Which are the best for users? Potential Customers?

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stvrsz
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97 posts since 23 May, 2011

Post Thu Sep 13, 2018 8:53 am

Locks up after 20 minutes, then reload
Locks up for good after 30 days
Doesn’t save presets
Intonation goes haywire
Limited voices
No effects
We have all downloaded them; we all wish they were free, but what is your favorite type of demo from a plugin manufacturer?
What types really give you a good look at a product, but not outright give it away for free?
Which ones make you want to buy the real thing?
Limp by on the demo?

stvrsz
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97 posts since 23 May, 2011

Re: Manufacturer Demos - Limitations? Which are the best for users? Potential Customers?

Post Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:02 am

I was very sad when my DUNE2 demo expired. I just need to buy it.
I like how RAPID and MASSIVE let you use them for a limited time, and then shut off.
The noise thing in Sylenth1 is not that bad, but the crackling in DIVA can get bothersome.
You almost think you are gold with ZEBRA2, but then.....

Winstontaneous
KVRian
1406 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA

Re: Manufacturer Demos - Limitations? Which are the best for users? Potential Customers?

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:07 am

stvrsz wrote:Locks up after 20 minutes, then reload
Locks up for good after 30 days
Doesn’t save presets
Intonation goes haywire
Limited voices
No effects
We have all downloaded them; we all wish they were free, but what is your favorite type of demo from a plugin manufacturer?
What types really give you a good look at a product, but not outright give it away for free?
Which ones make you want to buy the real thing?
Limp by on the demo?
I like "fully featured, saves presets but doesn't open them" like ToneBoosters and Tokyo Dawn Labs...just take a screenshot and you can get back to the settings if needed a la hardware.

I also like "locks up after 20 minutes" - using the VAZ Modular demo helped me get good at creating complex patches from scratch very quickly.
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fluffy_little_something
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12260 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

Re: Manufacturer Demos - Limitations? Which are the best for users? Potential Customers?

Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:57 am

stvrsz wrote:I was very sad when my DUNE2 demo expired. I just need to buy it.
I like how RAPID and MASSIVE let you use them for a limited time, and then shut off.
The noise thing in Sylenth1 is not that bad, but the crackling in DIVA can get bothersome.
You almost think you are gold with ZEBRA2, but then.....
Yes, for some reason the U-he noise is very irritating.

What noise in Sylenth1? I think there is a voice announcement, which really sucks.

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pdxindy
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14013 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:05 pm

Zebra is my favorite... it let me save and reload presets... after I had a bunch of presets, then I had to buy it :)

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fluffy_little_something
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12260 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:13 pm

I guess the most motivating thing is when one can save patches, but not load them again before buying it :hihi:

Timeouts can be annoying as well. Time goes by much faster than it seems. So, you are in the middle of exploring something important and all of a sudden there is no sound anymore.

Zexila
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3116 posts since 18 Mar, 2008

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:19 pm

If effect, than no saving, if synth, than light noise with saving.
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Examigan
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4366 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:41 pm

Curve 2's demo limits are nice:

"The demo is fully functional and has no time limit, but you can only use one instance per song and you can't save your settings."

Examigan
KVRAF
4366 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:44 pm

Not a synth, but Melodyne Editor has a good 30 day trial.

"Let Melodyne convince you: try it out for 30 days – free of charge and without obligation.
You can test all its functions to your heart’s content and without any limitations, saving everything and making further use of it later – exactly as though you’d already purchased the application."

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fluffy_little_something
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12260 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:47 pm

In times when some people leave their computers on 24/7, the saving and loading limitation might become useless.
Some plugins seem to go silent when rendering, though.

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Niowiad
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221 posts since 25 Jan, 2017

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:55 pm

I'm fine with anything but demos which expire after X days.

If I'm really interested in something I buy it regardless.
If I'm not sure about a product I might leave the demo in my VST folder for months/years, testing it out on several specific tasks over time and getting a license right when proved useful in a project. If the demo expires after 20-30 days, it's never long enough to come to that kind of conclusion. For me, at least...
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chk071
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17263 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:59 pm

fluffy_little_something wrote:
stvrsz wrote:I was very sad when my DUNE2 demo expired. I just need to buy it.
I like how RAPID and MASSIVE let you use them for a limited time, and then shut off.
The noise thing in Sylenth1 is not that bad, but the crackling in DIVA can get bothersome.
You almost think you are gold with ZEBRA2, but then.....
Yes, for some reason the U-he noise is very irritating.

What noise in Sylenth1? I think there is a voice announcement, which really sucks.
"Thank you for using this demo". I bet some EDM artist made a whole track around that sample. :P

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fluffy_little_something
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12260 posts since 5 Jun, 2012 from Portugal

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Post Fri Sep 14, 2018 1:03 pm

Ah right, luckily I haven't heard it in a while, though :hihi:

What is irritating about U-he's noise is that it seems to be there even if one mutes the plugin.

stvrsz
KVRist
97 posts since 23 May, 2011

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Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:30 am

fluffy_little_something wrote:
stvrsz wrote:I was very sad when my DUNE2 demo expired. I just need to buy it.
I like how RAPID and MASSIVE let you use them for a limited time, and then shut off.
The noise thing in Sylenth1 is not that bad, but the crackling in DIVA can get bothersome.
You almost think you are gold with ZEBRA2, but then.....
Yes, for some reason the U-he noise is very irritating.

What noise in Sylenth1? I think there is a voice announcement, which really sucks.
Yes. You are right about Sylenth...haven't used that one in a while.

stvrsz
KVRist
97 posts since 23 May, 2011

Re: Manufacturer Demos - Limitations? Which are the best for users? Potential Customers?

Post Sat Sep 15, 2018 3:32 am

pdxindy wrote:Zebra is my favorite... it let me save and reload presets... after I had a bunch of presets, then I had to buy it :)
Yes. I agree. I love the Zebra one. I also like almost full ones like Massive, RAPID, and HGF that give you a cut down with no presets and maybe a time limit, but you can actually hear how it sits in the mix.

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