Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

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zzz00m
KVRAF
2014 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Post Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 pm

brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
You go, BIG (TONE) guy!

So far, I have found that any synth that has BIGTONE patches, that those patches have defined the sweet spot in the playability of that particular synth, be it with PB, MW, AT, etc. :D

BIG fan of BIGTONE!!! :tu:
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brok landers
KVRAF
6109 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:54 pm

zzz00m wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 pm
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
You go, BIG (TONE) guy!

So far, I have found that any synth that has BIGTONE patches, that those patches have defined the sweet spot in the playability of that particular synth, be it with PB, MW, AT, etc. :D

BIG fan of BIGTONE!!! :tu:
thanks mate. much appreciated.
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

baconpaul
KVRist
178 posts since 25 Dec, 2018

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 am

brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
Oh yeah definitely want to add this. There’s a set of request around like https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/surge/issues/867 which are on the list still

I want to hold this one until I can move ui elements around more easily (the surge++ code name project) and make a couple of internal changes which you don’t care about but which matter a lot. That will unlock the ability to add many more features in 2020. Adding fine grained phase and lock control to the current vintage codebase is really painful though. (But that issue I linked does contain one of my favorite open source Maintainer memes where someone tells me it is easy to code - chuckle. They are right the lock is easy but integrating the lock in the synth is painful).

Thanks for your excitement about surge and sorry this answer isn’t as immediate as some others.

brok landers
KVRAF
6109 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:29 pm

baconpaul wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 am
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
Oh yeah definitely want to add this. There’s a set of request around like https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/surge/issues/867 which are on the list still

I want to hold this one until I can move ui elements around more easily (the surge++ code name project) and make a couple of internal changes which you don’t care about but which matter a lot. That will unlock the ability to add many more features in 2020. Adding fine grained phase and lock control to the current vintage codebase is really painful though. (But that issue I linked does contain one of my favorite open source Maintainer memes where someone tells me it is easy to code - chuckle. They are right the lock is easy but integrating the lock in the synth is painful).

Thanks for your excitement about surge and sorry this answer isn’t as immediate as some others.
ah, don't worry. i'm patiently waiting. take your time, and thanks for actually continuing surge. :tu:
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

kone2006
KVRist
62 posts since 18 Jan, 2014

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:22 am

how to save wavetables embedded in presets seperately?

baconpaul
KVRist
178 posts since 25 Dec, 2018

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:20 pm

kone2006 wrote:
Mon Nov 18, 2019 10:22 am
how to save wavetables embedded in presets seperately?
There’s actually no way to do that in the synth, I just realized!

kone2006
KVRist
62 posts since 18 Jan, 2014

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:32 pm

it will be nice to have that :)

sping
KVRer
22 posts since 30 Aug, 2008

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:36 pm

Currently, the only way (as I know) to use wavetables from other patches is to copy/paste the Oscillator, which includes wavetable, if used.

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Halonmusic
KVRAF
3026 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:33 pm

brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:54 pm
zzz00m wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 pm
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
You go, BIG (TONE) guy!

So far, I have found that any synth that has BIGTONE patches, that those patches have defined the sweet spot in the playability of that particular synth, be it with PB, MW, AT, etc. :D

BIG fan of BIGTONE!!! :tu:
thanks mate. much appreciated.
Best sound designer imo :tu:
Don't be a Sheep. :borg: | Opinions matters :evil:

HunterKiller
KVRAF
2091 posts since 10 Mar, 2006

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:38 pm

Halonmusic wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:33 pm
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:54 pm
zzz00m wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 pm
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
You go, BIG (TONE) guy!

So far, I have found that any synth that has BIGTONE patches, that those patches have defined the sweet spot in the playability of that particular synth, be it with PB, MW, AT, etc. :D

BIG fan of BIGTONE!!! :tu:
thanks mate. much appreciated.
Best sound designer imo :tu:
Ok confession time: I think I fell in love with brok when I heard his "Bigtone Ambient Pads from Albino" demo for Albino 2, back in 2005/6.

For the past decade that kind of stuff has come from huge gigabyte Kontakt libraries, numerous ones, yet brok was doing that kinda stuff a decade and a half ago with a few kilobytes.
"The educated person is one who knows how to find out what he does not know" - George Simmel
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Halonmusic
KVRAF
3026 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:59 am

HunterKiller wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:38 pm
Halonmusic wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:33 pm
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:54 pm
zzz00m wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:40 pm
brok landers wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 6:06 pm
EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Oct 28, 2019 11:53 pm
You can still do a lot even without osc phase parameter, though ;)
oh, i'm not denying that, it's an extremely versatile synth, no question. yet, the possibility to lock and adjust the osc phase is something you can't work around, once you need it - and sometimes it is crucial. and as i like surge and it still is actively developed, i thought i mention it. was worth a try...
You go, BIG (TONE) guy!

So far, I have found that any synth that has BIGTONE patches, that those patches have defined the sweet spot in the playability of that particular synth, be it with PB, MW, AT, etc. :D

BIG fan of BIGTONE!!! :tu:
thanks mate. much appreciated.
Best sound designer imo :tu:
Ok confession time: I think I fell in love with brok when I heard his "Bigtone Ambient Pads from Albino" demo for Albino 2, back in 2005/6.

For the past decade that kind of stuff has come from huge gigabyte Kontakt libraries, numerous ones, yet brok was doing that kinda stuff a decade and a half ago with a few kilobytes.
Hehe i did the same but with his Ambient Voltage bank in Audjoo Helix :)
Don't be a Sheep. :borg: | Opinions matters :evil:

brok landers
KVRAF
6109 posts since 26 Sep, 2003 from right here, as you can see ...

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:20 pm

guys, thanks for the nice words. really appreciate it. :tu:
regards,
brok landers
BIGTONEsounddesign
gear is as good as the innovation behind it-the man

glokraw
KVRAF
7201 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:56 pm

Not to mention the Synth1 bank, which again,
maximises the tools on the table :hyper:

baconpaul
KVRist
178 posts since 25 Dec, 2018

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:22 pm

kone2006 wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:32 pm
it will be nice to have that :)
I agree! I added an issue

https://github.com/surge-synthesizer/surge/issues/1341

We’ve stabilized the code now for a 1.6.4 release early next week (will announce here when we ship) but we can add this feature after that. Also depending on your level of comfort with the command line I could easily give you a python script which extracts the wavetables from a patch. But that’s obviously a stop gap only

kone2006
KVRist
62 posts since 18 Jan, 2014

Re: Vember Audio Surge is now open-source

Post Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:41 pm

thanks Baconpaul,i will wait for it to become a feature.

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