DUNE 3 is now available!!

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KVRAF
6131 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:08 pm

Drag and drop isn't a big deal to me. If you know what you're doing in a mod matrix, then there's no problem.

KVRian
1187 posts since 11 Sep, 2015

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:09 pm

Richard_Synapse wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:51 pm
NKS-ready means it went through NI's approval process. They check out all patches carefully, test all versions, the controller template, etc. This is not just important for NKS, but it improves the overall stability since it means extra stress testing. So it is very useful overall :)

Richard
oh, they test the controller template, now do they. put a nice stamp of approval. NKS-Ready - The Gold Standard, the ultimate seal of quality, is it. nah, it's a racket, they're getting free advertisement off your back, is all it is.
while dragging down the rest of the industry - and wasting everyone's hard drive space - with their bloated crap. time wasted making nks templates is time that could have been invested supporting the good control surfaces instead. I'm sorry but the only thing it means for me, when a plugin company thinks that "nks support" is even worth mentioning, is that the chances that I can tab around the interface using my controller will be quite low, because it stands for nothing more than bog-standard, might-as-well-use-midi integration.

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KVRist
449 posts since 2 Jun, 2015 from Belgrade, Serbia

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:15 pm

simmo75 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:05 pm
Ghost Dog wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:49 pm
simmo75 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:37 pm
Predictable... people whining already ...

Great update, congratulations Synapse-Audio!
Well, you said it yourself. Seems like an update (in all honesty, a killer update, but an update nonetheless) and not a new version.
And $79 is a good price for it considering all the work and new features.
Maybe for you or someone else with a license.

For me, I'm kinda tired with the love/hate relationship I had with D2 and I don't have a license any more so, for me, it's not $79 and I think I'll give this synth a rest (even though I can see myself easily connecting with DUNE 3 like I unfortunately never could with D2).

Otherwise, I'm not knocking it. If we disregard everything said, this is a good synth.
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KVRAF
3038 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:17 pm

acYm wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:53 pm
"nks approved" LOL

sorry, the idea that nks is a standard of some kind will always make me laugh. approved for the worst control surface on the market? gee, that's good to know.

should remove that from your blurb tbh
companies shouldn't support or give credence to nks, noobs wasting their hard-earned money on this dead-end excuse for a platform is the only thing it can lead to.
Sorry but this is just unnecessary trolling. There are lots of people out there with NI controllers. It just makes life easier for them to have things mapped out the box.
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KVRAF
7609 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:25 pm

v1o wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:17 pm
acYm wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:53 pm
"nks approved" LOL

sorry, the idea that nks is a standard of some kind will always make me laugh. approved for the worst control surface on the market? gee, that's good to know.

should remove that from your blurb tbh
companies shouldn't support or give credence to nks, noobs wasting their hard-earned money on this dead-end excuse for a platform is the only thing it can lead to.
Sorry but this is just unnecessary trolling. There are lots of people out there with NI controllers. It just makes life easier for them to have things mapped out the box.
I agree with that! As I intend to invest in NI hardware, this is a welcome feature and IMO well done :)

KVRist
90 posts since 12 Jan, 2014

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:26 pm

Congrats Synapse audio on the release.

Really liking the new factory presets. Copied over my presets and wavetables from D2, working just fine.

KVRian
1187 posts since 11 Sep, 2015

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:27 pm

oh I know, I have one too, that's why it's so puzzling to me that it's even a thing. well, have. I have the software, I can see how laughable it is.
nobody ever cared about supporting automap or akai advance, but hey, NI, with a history of killing a platform dead on a complete whim, made a really really bad control surface, so let's all go out of our ways to make it the "industry standard". who's trolling who, exactly?

I hope that, at least, there's the option to download an installer that isn't bloated with NI's crap.
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KVRAF
5489 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:30 pm

Great! I see some cool new features.

KVRAF
7609 posts since 7 Oct, 2005

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:38 pm

acYm wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:27 pm
oh I know, I have one too, that's why it's so puzzling to me that it's even a thing. well, have. I have the software, I can see how laughable it is.
nobody ever cared about supporting automap or akai advance, but hey, NI, with a history of killing a platform dead on a complete whim, made a really really bad control surface, so let's all go out of our ways to make it the "industry standard". who's trolling who, exactly?

I hope that, at least, there's the option to download an installer that isn't bloated with NI's crap.
It is a hidden feature, so even if you hate NI, you won't feel it is there till you use it! So, I don't see a reason for this negativity really ;)

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KVRAF
32942 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:47 pm

Richard_Synapse wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:51 pm
acYm wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:53 pm
"nks approved" LOL

sorry, the idea that nks is a standard of some kind will always make me laugh. approved for the worst control surface on the market? gee, that's good to know.

should remove that from your blurb tbh
companies shouldn't support or give credence to nks, noobs wasting their hard-earned money on this dead-end excuse for a platform is the only thing it can lead to.
NKS-ready means it went through NI's approval process. They check out all patches carefully, test all versions, the controller template, etc. This is not just important for NKS, but it improves the overall stability since it means extra stress testing. So it is very useful overall :)

Richard
I'm pleased about this being 'NKS Ready' but tbh the Dune 2 mapping was not detailed or well organised enough for me so I reverted to my own improved template, I'll see if things have improved in the new version.

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KVRian

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1097 posts since 20 Dec, 2010

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 4:59 pm

Caine123 wrote:
Sat Dec 08, 2018 3:39 pm
Steep upgrade price in my opinion when it doesnt seem like a full 3.0....
We believe it is more than fair, but I can understand if it is not instantly clear where the upgrade price comes from.

Take the patch library as an example. More than 200 of the new patches are made by Kevin Schroeder, and as usual they are of excellent quality. Each of his soundsets with about 64 patches is currently $20 in our shop. So the new patch library alone is worth the upgrade fee from this perspective. Of course other sound designers have contributed outstanding patches as well, this is just one example.

Then there's the new features of course, the dual filter, dual arp, wavetable editor etc which are really powerful additions, greatly increasing the sound design capabilities and versatility of the synth. The new skin is ihmo better than the old one (granted this is subjective), what's important it is HD and resizable, usable from Notebooks to 4K/5K screens, an important step forward.

Furthermore there's plenty of other additions not directly visible from looking at the screenshots or trying out demo patches. We put new high-quality analog-modeled filters in DUNE 3 that did not exist previously, as well as a whole bunch of new high-quality effect algorithms. We could easily take some of those, wrap a nice fancy UI around them, add a few parameters then sell them for $99 separately, noone would even think of complaining ;)

It will just take some time to really show off all the new features in more depth. I guess we will launch a video series soon to cover it all in more detail. :)

Richard
Synapse Audio Software - www.synapse-audio.com

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KVRAF
4632 posts since 22 Mar, 2009 from gent

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:05 pm

New gui is verry taxing on the cpu , had the same problem with dune 2 ...
I've heard other people ( on gearslutz ) have/had the same issues
Underspecd laptop here , that being said , the performance is verry good and efficient
There just something with the graphics that brings the cpu to it's knees ( shown in taskmanager only )
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KVRian
623 posts since 19 Feb, 2011

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:12 pm

psst... put some more GUI pics on the website.
(I have a hard time finding some. Looks like it's hardware only..)
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KVRAF
29978 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:14 pm

:?:

When you click on the pics on the Synapse website, it shows parts of the GUI... apart from that, there's 2 screenshots in the original post of this thread.

I really like the GUI, and the new features. :tu: Seems like a worthy upgrade for those liking version 2.
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KVRian
1135 posts since 22 Aug, 2004 from Edge City, the Low Country

Post Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:14 pm

So Dune 1 is now gone forever? (Out of the shop)

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