Sample Manipulation VST

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alex921
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29 posts since 22 Nov, 2016

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm

Neon Breath wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:10 pm
alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:59 pm
Dillinger wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:00 pm
Melodyne
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That's not very creative.
You are the one who should be creative, not the tools.
Totally valid, point. But I disagree, how does an artists get creative? He needs proper tools. Generally speaking this applicable to me, I do have Ableton Samplers, but I'm looking for better tools. Thats why i'd ask here, isn't this what this forum is about?

highkoo
KVRAF
4030 posts since 26 Jun, 2004

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:54 pm

Shout out for Granite.
Still use it all the time...
The simplicity/ease of use/versatility ratio is crazy..
Anything from subtle to mangling, very quickly.
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deastman
KVRAF
7310 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:34 pm

alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm
Neon Breath wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:10 pm
alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:59 pm
Dillinger wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:00 pm
Melodyne
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That's not very creative.
You are the one who should be creative, not the tools.
Totally valid, point. But I disagree, how does an artists get creative? He needs proper tools. Generally speaking this applicable to me, I do have Ableton Samplers, but I'm looking for better tools. Thats why i'd ask here, isn't this what this forum is about?
In my experience, Melodyne can be an incredibly creative tool.

Here’s an example:
Record one or two seconds of randomly banging on guitar strings. Have Melodyne split it up into individual polyphonic notes. Quantize it it a scale. Shorten some notes. Stretch some notes way out for several bars. Copy and paste the whole thing a few times and mangle it some more. Now go into the spectrum tools and further mangle it. Lots of fun, creative possibilities from very minimal sources.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

alex921
KVRer
29 posts since 22 Nov, 2016

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:53 pm

Isnt melodyne used to correct pitch/vocals. Seems a bit cumbersome to work with solely for sample manipulation, especially with a price tag like theirs.

deastman
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7310 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:05 pm

alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:53 pm
Isnt melodyne used to correct pitch/vocals. Seems a bit cumbersome to work with solely for sample manipulation, especially with a price tag like theirs.
That is the most common use, but it is capable of far more creative applications. And it has the whole spectral manipulation section where it can, for example, learn the spectral distribution of a piano and then apply it to a guitar.
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.

Shabdahbriah
KVRAF
4942 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:34 pm

deastman wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:34 pm
alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:28 pm
Neon Breath wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 1:10 pm
alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 12:59 pm
Dillinger wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:00 pm
Melodyne
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That's not very creative.
You are the one who should be creative, not the tools.
Totally valid, point. But I disagree, how does an artists get creative? He needs proper tools. Generally speaking this applicable to me, I do have Ableton Samplers, but I'm looking for better tools. Thats why i'd ask here, isn't this what this forum is about?
In my experience, Melodyne can be an incredibly creative tool.
Yep... "secret weapon". :wink:
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replicant X
KVRist
218 posts since 30 Jun, 2009 from moon

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:12 pm

I’m majoring in REAPER at Kenny Gioia University.

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dformd
KVRian
517 posts since 20 Dec, 2008

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:03 pm

The CDP Interface tool for Renoise offers integration and an interface for The Composers Desktop Project:
https://www.renoise.com/tools/cdp-interface

alex921
KVRer
29 posts since 22 Nov, 2016

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Fri Feb 01, 2019 2:40 pm

deastman wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 4:05 pm
alex921 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 2:53 pm
Isnt melodyne used to correct pitch/vocals. Seems a bit cumbersome to work with solely for sample manipulation, especially with a price tag like theirs.
That is the most common use, but it is capable of far more creative applications. And it has the whole spectral manipulation section where it can, for example, learn the spectral distribution of a piano and then apply it to a guitar.
Dillinger wrote:
Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:00 pm

Yep... "secret weapon". :wink:
Thanks.

alex921
KVRer
29 posts since 22 Nov, 2016

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:21 pm

dformd wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:03 pm
The CDP Interface tool for Renoise offers integration and an interface for The Composers Desktop Project:
https://www.renoise.com/tools/cdp-interface
Tried Composer Desktop Standalone, was a pain to setup. Don't own Renoise, would a Renoise trial suffice?

alex921
KVRer
29 posts since 22 Nov, 2016

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Fri Feb 01, 2019 6:22 pm

replicant X wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:12 pm
Mutools MUX VST
https://youtu.be/zTRq8trsHgw
That looks/sounds very interesting, thank you for sharing!

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voidhead23
KVRist
175 posts since 5 Jan, 2018 from Beijing, PRC

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:41 am

Well, it depends on if you're looking for a plugin to replace Simpler/Sampler or rival it. Some of your comments have gone both ways, so i'm not entirely sure. But if i was to use any other DAW besides Live (and i was looking into this recently and went bonkers trying to do what i did in Live with plugins), i'd use Redux to replace the Simpler/Sampler combo. Pretty easy to get the basics, pretty deep, can do layers and mappings for drums, different loop modes and also slices (and the slicer is intuitive). i've tried almost everything else everyone has listed here...nothing came close except Redux (though i prefer Nuance for drums...).

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jethrobull
KVRAF
1901 posts since 5 Jun, 2011 from Preston, England, UK

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:50 am

SoundPorn wrote:
Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:34 pm
For any Reaper users interested.i found these suite of plugs programmed in JS that r phenomenal. https://geraintluff.github.io/jsfx/#spring-box
Wow! Been trying these and they are superb. Thank you for the heads up :tu:
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Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
4143 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:13 pm


Kalamata Kid
KVRAF
4143 posts since 27 Jul, 2001 from Tarpon Springs, Florida, USA

Re: Sample Manipulation VST

Post Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:15 pm

Infinity Hit 'n' Mix Infinity
https://hitnmix.com/infinity/
Rather pricey but check it out anyway.

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