XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

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evilantal
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Post Wed Jun 17, 2020 3:39 am

This has probably been mentioned a lot already, so consider this a +1...
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Biome_Digital
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Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:36 am

Nice little update of small improvements. It's getting better! :)

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KVRAF
5259 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:49 am

Yes, very welcome, but I think may of us are still waiting for it to have more options with the sequencer (more pattern variations, longer patterns etc)
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capracan
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79 posts since 21 Feb, 2010

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:44 am

krismiller1982 wrote:
Tue Aug 27, 2019 3:38 pm
just over 2.4Tb.
In some cases producers have too much stuff/ samples...this size is realy huge.
i have a soundpool of 40 GB, and i use maybe around 10-20 % of it.
just think about it ^^,

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capracan
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79 posts since 21 Feb, 2010

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 7:52 am

cowby wrote:
Mon Apr 27, 2020 6:13 am
Yes, features of sequencers should be enhanced. Drum computer from Sugarbyte would be a nice inspiration to XLN Audio.
Yes that would be the biggest and relative easy improvement, to unlock the pattern combiner section or improve sound/sample modifications and more possibilities in rhythms.

sugarbytes drumcomputer works basically not with samples, it uses synthesis.
but a bit synthesis in XO would be awesome but is it possible?

I think that a focus of coding is stability, if the coders can add any of our ideas is just a question...

Funkybot's Evil Twin
KVRAF
7367 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:26 am

My FR's for this would be:

1. Really expand the sequencer options. Put it on it's own page, with the ability to create and sequence lots of patterns. So more patterns, a song mode, etc.

2. Make the "lock sample" function actually lock the damn sample! The lock shouldn't be ignored when I change presets. I might want the Kick from Preset A with the Snare from Preset B and the Hats and Pattern from Preset C. If Locking actually worked like I think most users would expect, you could build it up this way. Right now, changing presets changes samples regardless of the Lock Sample state.

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LoveEnigma18
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2363 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:19 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:26 am
2. Make the "lock sample" function actually lock the damn sample! The lock shouldn't be ignored when I change presets. I might want the Kick from Preset A with the Snare from Preset B and the Hats and Pattern from Preset C. If Locking actually worked like I think most users would expect, you could build it up this way. Right now, changing presets changes samples regardless of the Lock Sample state.
Are you using the latest version 1.2? Because if I understand correctly, this is not the case in 1.2. It works as expected.
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Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:31 am

LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:19 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:26 am
2. Make the "lock sample" function actually lock the damn sample! The lock shouldn't be ignored when I change presets. I might want the Kick from Preset A with the Snare from Preset B and the Hats and Pattern from Preset C. If Locking actually worked like I think most users would expect, you could build it up this way. Right now, changing presets changes samples regardless of the Lock Sample state.
Are you using the latest version 1.2? Because if I understand correctly, this is not the case in 1.2. It works as expected.
Yeah, me too. But nope! Using 1.2.

Do this.

1. Load the Steady State preset
2. Go to the EDIT page
3. Lock EVERY sample
4. Click the down arrow in the preset selection window

Result: the sample changes, the lock comes off.

It looks like the lock is designed from accidentally preventing you from changing the sample within the same preset. Not locking the same in place as you change presets. Don't love the design choice.

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LoveEnigma18
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2363 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:47 am

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:31 am
LoveEnigma18 wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:19 am
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:
Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:26 am
2. Make the "lock sample" function actually lock the damn sample! The lock shouldn't be ignored when I change presets. I might want the Kick from Preset A with the Snare from Preset B and the Hats and Pattern from Preset C. If Locking actually worked like I think most users would expect, you could build it up this way. Right now, changing presets changes samples regardless of the Lock Sample state.
Are you using the latest version 1.2? Because if I understand correctly, this is not the case in 1.2. It works as expected.
Yeah, me too. But nope! Using 1.2.

Do this.

1. Load the Steady State preset
2. Go to the EDIT page
3. Lock EVERY sample
4. Click the down arrow in the preset selection window

Result: the sample changes, the lock comes off.

It looks like the lock is designed from accidentally preventing you from changing the sample within the same preset. Not locking the same in place as you change presets. Don't love the design choice.
Ah, got it now. You are right. But I think it is exactly how it should be, because when you change presets you are changing the associated sounds, which means the lock has to go off.

The lock is meant to be used when you like a certain pattern, but want to lock a particular sample.

So instead of changing preset, try changing the sounds from left bottom and the lock will stay in its place. This means that if, for example, you locked your Kick, you can keep changing the samples of others until you have everything that sounds great together.
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KVRAF
7367 posts since 16 Aug, 2006

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:50 am

Yeah whereas my expectation is the lock would be global. Lock is locked is locked. Like U-he or Synapse synths or reverbs with Mix Lock. You change presets and any locked parameters remain the same.

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LoveEnigma18
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2363 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:51 am

I understand your point, but not sure if the same would be best for something like XO.
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KVRAF
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Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:58 am

The idea would be "hey, I like this kick and snare but let me experiment with different ancillary elements and patterns."

It wouldn't change the existing lock function, just expand where it applies.

Can you load patterns from different presets without changing the samples? This doesn't seem like an uncommon feature in a drum sampler. Maybe you can do it and I'm missing an obvious way to do that. Wouldn't be the same thing as having a persistent lock, but would allow for some mix and matching.

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LoveEnigma18
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2363 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:35 am

I think they could add it as an extension.

Yes, that's what Beat Combiner is for. You can randomize patterns with the same samples.
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m-ac
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553 posts since 18 Dec, 2007

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:53 am

Starting with an empty preset, is there a way of filling the available slots with random samples from your library?

JiggSaw
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130 posts since 28 Jun, 2004

Re: XLN Audio - XO - Improvement, Pros, Cons

Post Thu Jun 25, 2020 8:42 am

m-ac wrote:
Thu Jun 25, 2020 7:53 am
Starting with an empty preset, is there a way of filling the available slots with random samples from your library?
Nope.. even though I think that should be an obvious add. Pretty sure others have mentioned this as well. A randomizer while also using the lock feature seems like a no brainer.

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