Arturia VCollection 7 Official thread

VST, AU, AAX, etc. plug-in Virtual Instruments discussion
3ptguitarist
KVRist
310 posts since 14 Oct, 2006

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:23 am

Would you guys say the V collection is worth getting over something such as Diva or Serum? Or are they totally different types of synths?

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WatchTheGuitar
KVRAF
2372 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:29 am

Totally different. V Collection is a retro emulation of existing synths. Diva lets you select parts of classic retro synths to construct your own hybrid. Serum is nothing like the others at all, it's a much more modern digital synth and has features to do with wavetables and unison that the others can't touch.
How much do you see yourself designing your own sounds or just mainly using presets with a bit of light tweaking? If more the former then Diva or Serum would be a much better choice than V Collection. Then it comes down to whether you prefer a more analog retro sound or not - if you do then Diva makes sense, if not then Serum.
If you are solely after sounds from classic synths and won't even do tweaking then you may find Analog Lab better value for money - it's cut down functionality V Collection with a heap of presets, but limited ability to change settings apart from about 8 settings linked to macro knobs.

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KVRAF
1940 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:34 am

I can only comment on Serum and VCol. They are different products. V Col are emulations of old synths with some modern features added. Serum is wavetable synth. Serum IMO allows you to get more"modern" sounds usable for EDM e.t.c. Serum is great.

Chrisk-K
KVRist
113 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:16 pm

Arashi wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:51 pm
Chrisk-K wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:57 pm
I hoped for a secret trick :-) Too bad. Ctrl + left click and drag gives us maximum precision in Arturia VSTi’s.
Yes, that's equivalent to right-click on a Mac. If you have a mouse that supports right-click, you can just use that, or you can hold control (which works nicely, because it gives you more control).
I stumbled upon Ctrl + left click when trying a bunch of "key + left click" combinations to see if I could unlock a secret :wink:

3ptguitarist
KVRist
310 posts since 14 Oct, 2006

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:02 pm

WatchTheGuitar wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:29 am
Totally different. V Collection is a retro emulation of existing synths. Diva lets you select parts of classic retro synths to construct your own hybrid. Serum is nothing like the others at all, it's a much more modern digital synth and has features to do with wavetables and unison that the others can't touch.
How much do you see yourself designing your own sounds or just mainly using presets with a bit of light tweaking? If more the former then Diva or Serum would be a much better choice than V Collection. Then it comes down to whether you prefer a more analog retro sound or not - if you do then Diva makes sense, if not then Serum.
If you are solely after sounds from classic synths and won't even do tweaking then you may find Analog Lab better value for money - it's cut down functionality V Collection with a heap of presets, but limited ability to change settings apart from about 8 settings linked to macro knobs.
Thanks for the thoughts. I currently have komplete 12, Ableton live 10 suite, and also a 3 month trial of analog lab 4. For some reason I like the sounds coming from some v collection instruments. Do they allow any type of sound creation from v collection instruments or is it just tweaking presets? I want to use presets and tweak them, but also make my own sounds

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planetearth
KVRAF
1807 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:23 pm

3ptguitarist wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:02 pm
WatchTheGuitar wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:29 am
Totally different. V Collection is a retro emulation of existing synths. Diva lets you select parts of classic retro synths to construct your own hybrid. Serum is nothing like the others at all, it's a much more modern digital synth and has features to do with wavetables and unison that the others can't touch.
How much do you see yourself designing your own sounds or just mainly using presets with a bit of light tweaking? If more the former then Diva or Serum would be a much better choice than V Collection. Then it comes down to whether you prefer a more analog retro sound or not - if you do then Diva makes sense, if not then Serum.
If you are solely after sounds from classic synths and won't even do tweaking then you may find Analog Lab better value for money - it's cut down functionality V Collection with a heap of presets, but limited ability to change settings apart from about 8 settings linked to macro knobs.
Thanks for the thoughts. I currently have komplete 12, Ableton live 10 suite, and also a 3 month trial of analog lab 4. For some reason I like the sounds coming from some v collection instruments. Do they allow any type of sound creation from v collection instruments or is it just tweaking presets? I want to use presets and tweak them, but also make my own sounds
Analog Lab 4 is basically just presets, along with mixing and layering synths. But with all of the synths in the V Collections, you get everything you need to build your own sounds from the ground up! And in some cases, you can even import SYSEX data from the synths (or in the case of the CMI V and Synclavier V, original samples) that the emulations are based upon.

Steve
Listen to some of my stuff here: https://soundcloud.com/shadowsoflife.

Chrisk-K
KVRist
113 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:21 pm

3ptguitarist wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:02 pm
Thanks for the thoughts. I currently have komplete 12, Ableton live 10 suite, and also a 3 month trial of analog lab 4. For some reason I like the sounds coming from some v collection instruments. Do they allow any type of sound creation from v collection instruments or is it just tweaking presets? I want to use presets and tweak them, but also make my own sounds
I loved AL4 when I tried it. Soon I realized that I wouldn't be fully happy with AL4's very limited editing options. So, I bought V Collection 7, and couldn't be happier. If you love the 70's and 80's synths, the V Collection will bring tears of joy to your eyes.

GeneralQ
KVRer
25 posts since 10 Sep, 2019

Post Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:32 pm

Could someone rank the Included Instruments based on how difficult they are to learn. I think about buying the collection maybe but it seems like some of the stuff is far away from traditional subtractive synthesis.

Chrisk-K
KVRist
113 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:20 am

GeneralQ wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:32 pm
Could someone rank the Included Instruments based on how difficult they are to learn. I think about buying the collection maybe but it seems like some of the stuff is far away from traditional subtractive synthesis.
I'm no synth guru, but all of them are pretty easy to learn. You can easily get interesting sounds even from the DX-7 and the Synclavier simply by playing around with some key parameters without knowing the FM synthesis at all. Arturia has made them easy to program. If you adjusted parameters on a real FM synth without knowing the FM synthesis, you'd only get ugly noises.

slashcobain4
KVRer
9 posts since 23 May, 2020

Post Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:40 am

Would you all say that the main difference between Analog Lab 4 and V Collection are the additional parameters? Thank you!

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Tj Shredder
KVRAF
4541 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space

Post Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:45 am

Analog Lab is a preset synth with some extra controls. You can‘t design your own sounds. All the presets are based on the collection of the full versions...

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KVRAF
1940 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:09 pm

Analog Lab lets you combine the synths to create really weird combinations. You can mix the DX7 with a CS80 or Buchla. Its worth using the collection in AL IMO.

Chrisk-K
KVRist
113 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:05 pm

slashcobain4 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:40 am
Would you all say that the main difference between Analog Lab 4 and V Collection are the additional parameters? Thank you!
If you buy V Collection, you'll have AL4 plus 27 virtual classic synths / keys. It's no brainer. You can buy V Collection for about $200 $250 via KVR's marketplace. Or, wait for Arturia's sale.

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WatchTheGuitar
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2372 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:33 pm

Chrisk-K wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:05 pm
slashcobain4 wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:40 am
Would you all say that the main difference between Analog Lab 4 and V Collection are the additional parameters? Thank you!
If you buy V Collection, you'll have AL4 plus 27 virtual classic synths / keys. It's no brainer. You can buy V Collection for about $200 $250 via KVR's marketplace. Or, wait for Arturia's sale.
There is a sale on right now though not as much off the bundle as you’ll see on Black Friday.

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LoveEnigma18
KVRAF
2454 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:54 am

Alert: New updates available for V Collection 7 and Pigment 2 in ASC.

Analog Lab 4 - V 4.2.1

Bug fixes:

First notes are no longer missed when starting the DAW playback

No more CPU overload when opening Cubase projects

Program changes are no longer crashing Live when rendering audio

Opening a standalone no longer resets the sample rate to 44,1Khz

Preset name is now properly displayed when browsing presets from KeyLabs

Audio Unit state is now properly recalled when reopening a project

Undo/Redo function is now working properly with all controls

No more presets missing in Analog Lab Lite

When assigned to the OB-XA effects, smart controls are no longer muting the concerned effect slot.

No more audio blasts when loading "Bouncin Ball" preset

VST3 automations are now working properly in FL Studio

Glad to see the two bugs I reported have been mentioned as fixed. Need to test once tough. A couple of other things are not in this list, but I was upfront told that it will take some time for them to be fixed. Best technical support experience with any company. :tu:

Arturia - Excellent job. Keep it up! :clap:
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