Yes, and a lot of those Snap-Ins are things you'd never use in a synth, e.g. the Gain plugin, so you don't really need to buy them all. And you don't need the Filter Snap-In because it's the same as PP's own filter. With Reverb, Delay, EQ and Ensemble you'd have a really good set of tools and if you don't want to buy it all at once, just use your global send reverb and delay and buy the Snap-ins when you can afford them.
dune_rave wrote: ↑
Sun May 31, 2020 10:20 pm
Afaik Phaseplant can contain many wavetable oscillators, not limited by their number. this is a unique feature, icarus or serum is limited, and even avenger is limited to 8 wt oscs. however i can't imagine a use case for this, where you would need 10 wt oscs...
That's because you are looking at it wrong. PhasePlant can have as many oscillators as you want, even if you only want one. OTOH, Avenger always has 8, whether you need them or not. i.e. Avenger will always be complicated, where PP can be very simple. That's why I like it - simple things are quick and easy and it only gets complex and messy when I need it to.
TIMT wrote: ↑
Sun May 31, 2020 11:53 pm
everything seems sort of half arsed in terms of the sound quality
Really? I have to wonder if you even know what that word means? To be fair, I don't use the wavetable oscillators at all but the V/A osc sounds great.
all of Kilohearts plugins give off this vibe.
That's not been my experience at all. Faturator is a great distortion that I find a lot more versatile than many others. I tried several different gate plugins before I settle don kHs Trance gate. Disperser is quite unique. The Ensemble Snap-In sounds amazing and has a great GUI. Phase Distortion creates some beautiful results unlike any other of the dozens of distortion plugins I own. Do I need to go on?
the filters are rubbish to be honest.
Hardly. Yes, they lack character but that's because you are supposed to put the character in yourself, by putting other effects before the filters in the chain. Even if you don't, they do the job well enough.
i feel kind of the same about all the effects really and the oscillators,distortion..none of it sticks out.
I think exactly the same about Thorn but, taken as a whole, it is far and away my favourite VSTi. And over the years I've found that to often be true - the best synths are always more than the sum of their parts and synths that are great in one area are often let down in another.
having a macro for phase and amplitude modulation is not audiorate.
Actually, that's precisely what it is, just as FM is audiorate modulation., it's just a bit weird to refer to it as that, rather than cross-modulation. It took me a while to work out what they meant.
Apologies for the rant but this synth really disappointed me despite all the hype it got initially and after its launch.
I think you need to understand that not everyone has the same needs as you. As I said earlier, I have never so much as touched the wavetable oscillator but given how good the rest of the synth is, and what you've said about it, I think it is unlikely it's anywhere near as bad as you're trying to suggest. Maybe it doesn't suit your needs but to suggest it sounds bad and is mostly generic is just laughable. It makes me wonder if you have the slightest idea what you are doing.