Massive X - the thread

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vurt
addled muppet weed
46974 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:55 am

collider wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 am
I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.
that makes elmo cry

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dionenoid
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266 posts since 3 Jan, 2019 from Holland

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 am

collider wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 am
I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.
Thanx for that reply. It was extremely useful. Especially in this topic about a NI product.
More BPM please

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vurt
addled muppet weed
46974 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:10 am

dionenoid wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:09 am
collider wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 am
I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.
Thanx for that reply. It was extremely useful. Especially in this topic about a NI product.
its helped me rethink my whole outlook on life :)

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McLilith
KVRAF
1796 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:21 am

vurt wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:41 am
if you do that they send a team of ninjas to break in and install the rest.
theres also unconfirmed reports they put sand in people clean socks and underwear. :scared:
In that case, I'm glad I decided to install the complete Komplete 12! :o
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40watt
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41 posts since 22 May, 2004 from UK

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:30 am

v1o wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 4:27 pm
40watt wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:18 am
IMHO MassiveX is a typical NI launch, huge hype, good core product, but unfinished, and it may never be...
I dunno about hype. There was a complete drought of info in the few months prior to release. No one really knew what to expect honestly or if there might be another delay. And on release day they kind of just snuck out a brief but uninformative promo video on YouTube.

It’s like this year’s Summer sale. It was the most half hearted sale ever. They didn’t even update their own website or send emails out until a few days after the sale had already started.
Hype, I kind of meant by the community, not NI. Lets face it unless you have been living under a rock for the last 2 years everyone knew it was coming.....much like the Summer Sale. Are we too expectant in thinking that a company that size would release a solid product of first release, in this case I don't think so, but I do think we possibly put developers under way to much expectation.

As for the sale, I did see lots of complaints it was only on upgrades, well NI's Summer of Sound sale has always been about upgrades ... aint nothing new there....

SLiC
KVRAF
3687 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:36 am

Summer sale followed by Black Friday sale followed by New Year sale then the Easter sale....rinse. repeat.
Does anyone pay full price ever? I genuinely can't remember the last time I bought music software that wasn't 50% off other than U-HE and Spectrasonics stuff.
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pixel85
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524 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:37 am

collider wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 am
I don't use any NI stuff and I'll be happy keeping it that way.
Why it took you so long to tell us this?! It's absolutely game changer. Now anything will be the same again
don't use plugin/s in this topic! It has aliasing at -196dB and 60fps

glokraw
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6923 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:12 am

chk071 wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:51 am
glokraw wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:43 am
Never once in all the lead-up to the first release,
did I ever consider the possibility that
V1 of Massive X would have the stability and support
that I've experienced with U-he products.
Hopefully the data received from error reports
will lead to a massive number of fixes and enhancements.
Did you try Massive X yourself? It's pretty stable here.

Apart from that, you kind of withhold that u-he releases discounted public betas, to nail out anything they couldn't in the internal beta tests. ;)
Why would I withhold an obvious and great portion of
the U-he business plan? The public betas to me are fun,
educational, and the discounts are appreciated.
They engender the feeling of teamwork. I would love
NI to follow suit :hyper:

I love many NI products, and their generous demos
have led to several purchases, but currently, I have
two major issues that their support is aware of,
and hopefully can follow through on successfully.
I've never have had to root around for crashdumps and
logs with any U-he product, on any platform.

I have spent too many hours with Massive X. Just using
the controls in the upper-left quadrant, with a chain of
CM Fuzz, Replika, and CoulourCopy, is great fun.
But the preset handling and kontrol-freek installer
are travesties, and sadly, several forum reports confirm
my own experiences. The gui reminds me of my old
washed-out sports t-shirts from decades past.
Massive X currently seems like a failed penalty kick.
But the fat lady has yet to sing :hyper:
As it stands, 'Rounds' will be my next NI purchase,
and that several months from now, and _IF_ they fix
the issues I've reported.

I suspect NI are voluntary victims of bedding down in
territory infested with multiple .net frameworks,
and multiple multiple visual-basic calamities,
and those at the top seem to be content with
a certain baseline of failure, as long
as the headlines are shiny enough to drive sales.
Cheers

glokraw
KVRAF
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Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:23 am


SLiC
KVRAF
3687 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:27 am

Party? That seems to be just a very long list of bugs and complaints!
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chk071
KVRAF
20836 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:40 am

Looks like a bug tracker to me. You know, that thing which noone else in the business would actually set up.

OK, not quite a bug tracker... rather... a feedback area.

glokraw
KVRAF
6923 posts since 6 Oct, 2004

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:02 pm

It shows that NI has provided a communication channel,
and is listening. Sorting the page 'by comments' is useful.

Experience shows their support staff is undermanned,
and overwhelmed. As are the staff of most big advertising competitors.
But some of this is brought on themselves
with :dog: Native Access yanking user ingenuity and knowledge
out of the installation/registration process :dog:

And then hapless/lazy customers pepper them with
generic complaints without taking 60 seconds to type in
their system specs, and another 60 for unique situations
that may factor in.
Both of which could be a stored in text file(s)
at the ready for whenever it's useful.

Teamwork and compromise are the key to NI's longevity
and future successes. From both users and developers.
Nobody is on an all-singing all-dancing roll here. :wink:

highkoo
KVRAF
3850 posts since 26 Jun, 2004

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:05 pm

Woah they created a whole Area!
Did anyone ask em when MX is going to be finished? :clown:
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KVRAF
5713 posts since 28 Apr, 2013

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:21 pm

Last time I contacted support, system specs were required to submit the ticket.

Stefken
KVRian
1351 posts since 9 Nov, 2016

Re: Massive X - the thread

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 1:24 pm

glokraw wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:02 pm
But some of this is brought on themselves
with :dog: Native Access yanking user ingenuity and knowledge
out of the installation/registration process :dog:
The install manager is solid. That's what most people want: an easy install.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. The installer is solid and then blame them as this makes the user 'stupid'. If the installer was a wreck (gobbler!) then the first thing people would do is ask for a proper installer.

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