Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

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samsam
KVRAF
2512 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:32 pm

I wanna make 128 step loops in Geist 2 that can then just repeat. Long enough for variation,

In the pattern window I only wanna display 64 steps (otherwise it all gets too dinky) so what I (think) I want to do is have 2 patterns of 64 that alternate. So I'm guessing one associated with C and one with C# in that little pattern Keyboard. Can't work out what's going on there and bit lost with the manual.

What's the easiest way to achieve this? Cheers.

(Bought G2 years ago, got out of music, now trying to pick t up again)

bite_me
KVRist
372 posts since 2 May, 2015 from Ruhrgebiet

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:40 pm

Maybe I don´t get the point :neutral:
Create patterns on that C and C# and simply trigger them with your MIDI keyboard or MIDI pattern in your DAW.

samsam
KVRAF
2512 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:48 pm

The point is I forget how to do the entire process :)

I already worked out to get the patterns in the corresponding key 'location' by copying and pasting.

I don't want to have to manually get it to change nor do I want to program in the DAW at this point.

Press space bar on DAW and then I want Geist to toggle automatically between the 2 patterns. How can I chain them in Geist, not programming in the DAW?

focusrite
KVRist
205 posts since 20 Aug, 2010

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:22 pm

You could make both patterns 256 and put them in 2 engines. Program the 1st half pattern 1 and the 2nd half of pattern 2. A bit convoluted right.

The other way is to program song mode to repeat the patterns for however long you need. Still convoluted when you could program the midi pattern in your saw and draw it out for the length needed.

samsam
KVRAF
2512 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:34 pm

Thanks but I don't wanna work with the DAW at this point, Geist is a sequencer.

Maybe I'm not explaining this properly.

I want to write a loop which is, say, 16 bars (or 32, or 64) If I do that inside one pattern it becomes super tiny inside the Pattern page. So instead, I thought I can chain 2 (or 3 or 4) patters together inside Geist. Not really a song (does it have to be inside Song mode?) just some alternating patterns.

I'm not building a song in my DAW, I want to build a long groove inside Geist (which also runs in standalone).

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zklaus
KVRist
104 posts since 30 Nov, 2018 from U.S.

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:26 am

Saw this post when looking for the same solution. :) I agree, it would be nice to program different sequences and have Geist simply switch to them automatically (instead you need to manually switch between patterns). I can't believe they left out this feature. I've since moved back to the DAW for this as I do not think this is possible. Otherwise, Geist is a very powerful drum machine. I loved the probability feature on it, you didn't have to manually punch in it for every step!
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bite_me
KVRist
372 posts since 2 May, 2015 from Ruhrgebiet

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:10 pm

Have to investigate that thing the next days. :band2:

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KVRAF
3195 posts since 7 Aug, 2008

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:14 pm

What about Song mode? Wouldn't that do it?

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KVRAF
1551 posts since 24 Feb, 2004

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm

You're explaining it properly; and the solution, within Geist, is Song Mode, there's no other way to chain patterns together.
samsam wrote:
Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:34 pm
Thanks but I don't wanna work with the DAW at this point, Geist is a sequencer.

Maybe I'm not explaining this properly.

I want to write a loop which is, say, 16 bars (or 32, or 64) If I do that inside one pattern it becomes super tiny inside the Pattern page. So instead, I thought I can chain 2 (or 3 or 4) patters together inside Geist. Not really a song (does it have to be inside Song mode?) just some alternating patterns.

I'm not building a song in my DAW, I want to build a long groove inside Geist (which also runs in standalone).
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samsam
KVRAF
2512 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 4:43 pm

Thanks folks.

Song Mode it is then, apparently. I'll have a try later, seems straightforward but somewhat overkill for just 2 patterns, we shall see.

samsam
KVRAF
2512 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:52 pm

Update: I was assuming creating scenes was necessary first. It's not.

Create 2 patters in the Pattern Editor (mapping each to a key/note), then in Song Mode I can draw in 2 sequences, one for each Pattern and let it loop.

Basically focusrite suggested this above and it seems the only way. Taking into account my need to build a groove inside Geist and not inside the DAW, using Song Mode is actually super easy and potentially creative in itself.

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echoseason
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8 posts since 5 Jul, 2018

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:24 pm

Song mode is the way to go, I find it helps me keep things organized as well. Geist handles editing/moving the clips around decently too. The alternative, which can be a bit clunky, is to draw in the corresponding midi note for that sequence in your daw, which is how Geist's little brother, Tremor, does things without the convenience of Song Mode. You can also rename the clips, which might seem like a minor thing, but it really helps when you need to work quickly.
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KVRAF
2512 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Basic Geist 2 Qn about linking patterns

Post Sat Jul 13, 2019 5:01 am

Agreed, been playing with Song Mode more, very cool and certainly the solution to what I was looking for.

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