The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

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fisherKing
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Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:48 am

CrystalWizard wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:42 am
fisherKing wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 8:23 am
tell that to people who depend on the adobe suite, for example. no one who needs those apps is going to boycott adobe; people need to work.

we're a long way off from truly living in the cloud; it will happen, but not for some time.
Some people are locked into Adobe just like M$ and ProTools (see my comment on the DAW thread)
I shitcanned my adobe suite last year after hemmoraging too much money into it. There are now other tools that do the job (or most of the job). People are just locked in (mostly large enterprise) and don’t want to (or can’t afford to) retrain using different toolsets. “Industry standard” bs. If the bean counters weren’t running the show it’s possible that a lot of even enterprise could switch, they’re actually starting to do it in some cases. Other than the behemoths there’s a huge market of pro, semi-pro, and ametuers who could avoid the vampies.

The cloud is a joke. As i commented there is little real reason for it. HDDs and SSDs are cheap as chips. Many hi end softwares include advanced networking abilities (such as DaVinci Resolve studio.)
i have friends who work in graphics, and adobe is the way to go for them (i moved to affinity photo). and pro tools is pro tools.

anyway, the cloud won't own us for years, not until it's as fast and as accessible as our drives are now.
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chk071
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:49 am

The cloud can be damn comfortable. And that's basically the whole thing about it, and why i use it. If you take the Google web apps, for instance, it immediately feels antiquated, if you work the "conservative" way again. I wouldn't count on it for data storage, though. But, to work with it is great.

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Aloysius
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:52 am

I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd of kvrians,
A host of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.
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fisherKing
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:01 am

Aloysius wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:52 am
I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd of kvrians,
A host of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.
look more closely, they're arguing about everything... :D
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Aloysius
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:04 am

:)
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Burillo
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:04 am

chk071 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:49 am
The cloud can be damn comfortable. And that's basically the whole thing about it, and why i use it. If you take the Google web apps, for instance, it immediately feels antiquated, if you work the "conservative" way again. I wouldn't count on it for data storage, though. But, to work with it is great.
i dunno, i find it rather the other way around. web apps are bloated, slow and not feature-rich, and i find that i'm more productive when i'm using real applications.
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metaside
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108 posts since 11 Oct, 2012

Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:05 am

AnX wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:37 am
i will NEVER pay a subscription / cloud fee

buy outright, or not at all (not that i ever buy anything)
I buy lots of stuff, but I also will never pay for a sub for audio plugins. I just drop every dev introducing sub/cloud models or stick-based DRM and similar stuff I don't use like a smelly dead cold fish. There are so many great synths and effects on the market that I don't really need anything specific these days to make whatever sound or track I want.
I'm currently working on seeing all of this very positive: the current developments will significantly contribute to me finally selling some more stuff and the general decluttering of my plugin collection. :D

chk071
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:06 am

Burillo wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:04 am
chk071 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:49 am
The cloud can be damn comfortable. And that's basically the whole thing about it, and why i use it. If you take the Google web apps, for instance, it immediately feels antiquated, if you work the "conservative" way again. I wouldn't count on it for data storage, though. But, to work with it is great.
i dunno, i find it rather the other way around. web apps are bloated, slow and not feature-rich, and i find that i'm more productive when i'm using real applications.
Fair enough. We're all different.

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vurt
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50126 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:43 am

im not.

AnX
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5229 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:48 am

vurt wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:43 am
im not.
im knot ether

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fisherKing
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 12:08 pm

i'm different, but in the same way...
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tony10000
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493 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:04 pm

Burillo wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:04 am
chk071 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2019 10:49 am
The cloud can be damn comfortable. And that's basically the whole thing about it, and why i use it. If you take the Google web apps, for instance, it immediately feels antiquated, if you work the "conservative" way again. I wouldn't count on it for data storage, though. But, to work with it is great.
i dunno, i find it rather the other way around. web apps are bloated, slow and not feature-rich, and i find that i'm more productive when i'm using real applications.
Subscription services do not necessarily involve cloud-based apps. For example, Slate Digital uses traditional VSTs with iLok, both the dongle and the cloud versions.

https://slatedigital.zendesk.com/hc/en- ... ing-Bundle

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Aloysius
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:07 pm

Rows and floes of angel hair
And ice cream castles in the air
And feather canyons everywhere
I've looked at clouds that way
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vurt
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:14 pm

become the cloud.

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Aloysius
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Re: The Cloud and the Future of Plugins

Post Fri Aug 16, 2019 1:15 pm

I'm a cloud and I'm proud.
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