Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

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exmatproton
KVRAF
2591 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:36 pm

SLiC wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:41 pm
I tend to think of workstations being multi timbale rather than layering to make one sound. I’m not sure I would say this is a workstation, but it’s a very powerful and flexible synth!
I agree. The name 'workstation' comes from those kind of keyboards/synthesizers (in this context).
However, it feels like a wavetable workstation. Where one can go deep. The name seems kinda fitting that way.

SLiC
KVRAF
4120 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:59 pm

It’s almost like it needs a new name...let’s think - waves, workstation.....Got it!

The Wavestation ;-)
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exmatproton
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2591 posts since 25 Apr, 2011

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:30 am

:tu: :tu:

MorpherX
KVRist
137 posts since 17 Feb, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:19 pm

CPU usage reduction in idle state.

Would it be possible to reduce the CPU usage in Idle state because 16 instances of Icarus 1.6 using 7% of a 16 thread CPU @ 3.6 Ghz and this is far to much.
16 instances of Serum in idle state using 0,5% with the same CPU and 16 instances of Hive 2 using 2-3% also with the same CPU.
This CPU usage is the case although I have activated CPU reduction of VSTis in idle state at my DAW (Reaper 5.9xy).

Markus Krause
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226 posts since 2 Jul, 2018

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:32 pm

The idle performance of
Icarus2 has been enhanced.
You do not have to activate 'idle management' in Reaper. The synth does this automatically.
Last edited by Markus Krause on Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Tone2 Audiosoftware https://www.tone2.com

MorpherX
KVRist
137 posts since 17 Feb, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:41 pm

Markus Krause wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:32 pm
Icarus comes with multithreading support. It distributes and balances the cpu load on up to 4 cores.
'idle' does mean that your cpu has lots of processing power left. In this case icarus uses more cpu load than if you are on a high cpu load. This dynamic cpu balancing helps to avoid audio dropouts and gives you the best possible experience on your system
Hi Markus,

thanks for the fast reply.
With idle I mean the CPU usage when no note is played on all 16 instances of Icarus 1.6 in the above example, only for clarification.

Markus Krause
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226 posts since 2 Jul, 2018

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:45 pm

Cross post^^
Tone2 Audiosoftware https://www.tone2.com

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fisherKing
KVRAF
1980 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:52 pm

MorpherX wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:19 pm
CPU usage reduction in idle state.

Would it be possible to reduce the CPU usage in Idle state because 16 instances of Icarus 1.6 using 7% of a 16 thread CPU @ 3.6 Ghz and this is far to much.
16 instances of Serum in idle state using 0,5% with the same CPU and 16 instances of Hive 2 using 2-3% also with the same CPU.
This CPU usage is the case although I have activated CPU reduction of VSTis in idle state at my DAW (Reaper 5.9xy).
who uses 16 instances of any synth plugin?? (no really, am asking....)
always one plugin short of perfection...

MorpherX
KVRist
137 posts since 17 Feb, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:57 pm

Markus Krause wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:32 pm
The idle performance of
Icarus2 has been enhanced.
You do not have to activate 'idle management' in Reaper. The synth does this automatically.

That's absolute great !!!

Many thanks for this, because this is very important if I or other users will load many istances of Icarus2 but not using them all at the same time.

MorpherX
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137 posts since 17 Feb, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:01 pm

fisherKing wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:52 pm
MorpherX wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:19 pm
CPU usage reduction in idle state.

Would it be possible to reduce the CPU usage in Idle state because 16 instances of Icarus 1.6 using 7% of a 16 thread CPU @ 3.6 Ghz and this is far to much.
16 instances of Serum in idle state using 0,5% with the same CPU and 16 instances of Hive 2 using 2-3% also with the same CPU.
This CPU usage is the case although I have activated CPU reduction of VSTis in idle state at my DAW (Reaper 5.9xy).
who uses 16 instances of any synth plugin?? (no really, am asking....)
I am using much much more instances than 16 of a VSTi within a project, of course not at the same time.
It seems you have nothing to do with music composing !

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fisherKing
KVRAF
1980 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:17 pm

MorpherX wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:01 pm
fisherKing wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:52 pm
MorpherX wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:19 pm
CPU usage reduction in idle state.

Would it be possible to reduce the CPU usage in Idle state because 16 instances of Icarus 1.6 using 7% of a 16 thread CPU @ 3.6 Ghz and this is far to much.
16 instances of Serum in idle state using 0,5% with the same CPU and 16 instances of Hive 2 using 2-3% also with the same CPU.
This CPU usage is the case although I have activated CPU reduction of VSTis in idle state at my DAW (Reaper 5.9xy).
who uses 16 instances of any synth plugin?? (no really, am asking....)
I am using much much more instances than 16 of a VSTi within a project, of course not at the same time.
It seems you have nothing to do with music composing !
haha, my question tells you i have nothing to do with music composing? i make my living doing music; just scored a doc; have 2 platinum and 2 gold records; currently work with an (in)famous rock star. i keep busy... without using 16 instances of a single synth 8)

anyway, (to get back on topic), am excited about icarus2, and counting down the days... :tu:
always one plugin short of perfection...

MorpherX
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137 posts since 17 Feb, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:34 pm

The way of music composing can be very different !!!

If "You" using only few instances of a VSTi than it's an other kind of music than that what I do and you can not speak for all users.
It doesn't impress me if you have platinum or gold records and this even doesn't say something about the quality of that music.
In my view many "stars" with a lot of honour gets it for popular low quality music and thats not my feeld.

Adios Mr. fisherKing

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fisherKing
KVRAF
1980 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:38 pm

MorpherX wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:34 pm
haha, my question tells you i have nothing to do with music composing? i make my living doing music; just scored a doc; have 2 platinum and 2 gold records; currently work with an (in)famous rock star. i keep busy... without using 16 instances of a single synth 8)

The way of music composing can be very different !!!

If "You" using only few instances of a VSTi than it's an other kind of music than that what I do and you can not speak for all users.
It doesn't impress me if you have platinum or gold records and this even doesn't say something about the quality of that music.
In my view many "stars" with a lot of honour gets it for popular low quality music and thats not my feeld.

Adios Mr. fisherKing
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yikes, all i did was ask you to explain your need for 16 instances of a plugin... you could have done that without the rudeness, or combative behavior.

but, this is kvr, so am not really surprised...
always one plugin short of perfection...

SLiC
KVRAF
4120 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:50 pm

Yeh, but he makes ‘high quality’ music, not that popular commercial kind that people actually listen to, let’s face it, if you are not using 16.instances of the same plug in, your stuff can’t be high quality...

For what it’s worth, I am impressed you have gold records, even more impressed you can make your living through music!
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fisherKing
KVRAF
1980 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:53 pm

SLiC wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:50 pm
Yeh, but he makes ‘high quality’ music, not that popular commercial kind that people actually listen to, let’s face it, if you are not using 16.instances of the same plug in, your stuff can’t be high quality...

For what it’s worth, I am impressed you have gold records, even more impressed you can make your living through music!
ha, i'd probably be working more if i was on kvr less... but i love this place (despite the battles... or maybe because of them :hihi:)

meanwhile, i use icarus a lot, and can't wait for the 'new'...
always one plugin short of perfection...

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