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El°HYM
KVRer
13 posts since 21 Nov, 2015

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:03 am

The #toxic behavior in general, is certainly one of the biggest probs in this area. :tu:

Cinebient
KVRAF
4309 posts since 16 Nov, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:32 pm

tasty tatsyn wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 9:45 am
Cinebient wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:02 am
As usual the other half is always complaining....whatever you do.
Sad to hear about the health problems and that there might be no more big new projects.
Would be another loss in the plug-in market.
Well, maybe do an iOS app :) (cheap but no piracy, a more friendly community and not such a saturated market....yet)
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starflakeprj
KVRian
1198 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:43 pm

Vertion wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:39 am
chk071: Why so contemptuous? Can you not keep your hatred private? That’s the worst sickness of all. Be kind and have compassion and empathy for the hardships of others. Markus is a good person and it’s ok to be nice.
I think you guys are completely missing the point. I don't think chk071 is bashing Markus at all, and definitely not showing hatred against him. What I'm sure chk071 meant was that Markus didn't write that he has health issues to get sympathies and getting people to start a fundraising for him, especially not since we don't know what kind of health issues he has.

The health care in Germany is good, it's not USA we are talking about, where you can't get a good health care without either an insurance or lots of money.
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Vertion
KVRian
631 posts since 29 Oct, 2016

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:20 pm

My interest in donating is the gesture itself, the good will. Often times a good gesture in itself is healing. If the state has great medical, great. If people are trying to rationalize away compassion and empathy, then you have found evil. Everytime I see someone try to tear down a gesture of good will, you know that person missed the point.

It’s not hard to imagine such people eating a pile of hamburgers in front of a cow. As the cow stares, such people might say:, “Hey, I paid for these fair and square.” Heartless.
:) SLH :)

rlared
KVRian
541 posts since 1 Aug, 2016

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:26 pm

Only on KVR do I have to explain myself for offering to help someone who is sick. My offer was to Markus and yet other people are replying on his behalf. That is pretty condescending in my opinion... He is a grown man who can speak for himself. Seriously if this is the type of stuff that offends you then go to hell.

tasty tatsyn
KVRist
376 posts since 19 Jun, 2016

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:27 pm

Cinebient wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:32 pm
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starflakeprj wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 12:43 pm
Vertion wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:39 am
chk071: Why so contemptuous? Can you not keep your hatred private? That’s the worst sickness of all. Be kind and have compassion and empathy for the hardships of others. Markus is a good person and it’s ok to be nice.
I think you guys are completely missing the point. I don't think chk071 is bashing Markus at all, and definitely not showing hatred against him. What I'm sure chk071 meant was that Markus didn't write that he has health issues to get sympathies and getting people to start a fundraising for him, especially not since we don't know what kind of health issues he has.

The health care in Germany is good, it's not USA we are talking about, where you can't get a good health care without either an insurance or lots of money.
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i think there was some degree of misunderstanding there too, i think he ment (chk071) that he (persoanly) wouldn't like to create something like a "GoFundMe" kind of thing (while stating that probably wasn't Markus intention), that's what i understood.......

if someone would like help by doing it, nothing intrinsecally bad there either....

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... Coffee break N2?
..maybe with a biscuit this time?

Hanz Meyzer
KVRian
1376 posts since 20 Oct, 2014

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:34 pm

I would love to buy a standalone version of the Icarus FX, but I guess that is not possible anymore... I was thinking about this, in the end a separate fx is way more flexible, since you can place it anymore within the DAW routing. Found "Multi FX" on the tone2 page, but it seems to be Windows only, though the screen shot parameters look very similar to the Icarus 1.6 FX parameters. Super neat would be if you could easily transfer the FX settings from the synth to the separate FX plugin, e.g. thru copy-paste buffer.

FapFilter
KVRist
178 posts since 29 Oct, 2015

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:23 pm

Great idea, even though i'm always happy with external audio inputs

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
7303 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 2:57 pm

Hanz Meyzer wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 1:34 pm
I would love to buy a standalone version of the Icarus FX, but I guess that is not possible anymore... I was thinking about this, in the end a separate fx is way more flexible, since you can place it anymore within the DAW routing. Found "Multi FX" on the tone2 page, but it seems to be Windows only, though the screen shot parameters look very similar to the Icarus 1.6 FX parameters. Super neat would be if you could easily transfer the FX settings from the synth to the separate FX plugin, e.g. thru copy-paste buffer.
Didn’t Markus mention something about planning an external input for Icarus in a future update?
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Dillinger
KVRist
252 posts since 2 Apr, 2016

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:32 pm

Hey, Icarus 2 looks like good fun!

When will it be released?

Any other details?

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Russell Grand
KVRAF
2157 posts since 22 May, 2017

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:43 pm

Ah nevermind...
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Russell Grand
KVRAF
2157 posts since 22 May, 2017

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:46 pm

wagtunes wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:46 am
JunSev wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:41 am
wagtunes wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:32 am
Echoes in the Attic wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:24 am
wagtunes wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:09 am
JunSev wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:29 am
Problem solved, confidence from many in Tone2 restored, Markus is a wise man. :hug:



Don't say that, there will be always a place in the market for Tone2 and hopefully for future Icarus 3, 4... :) with the deepest synthesis-wavetable synth in the world.
What part of he has health problems and is no longer financially feasible did you NOT understand?
He was trying to pay him a compliment you raging dickhead. And you wonder why you get in fights with people here. All you do is provoke.
No, I tend to take people at their word when they say something. When Linplug said they were done, they were done. When Camel Audio said they were done, they were done. Markus has flat out said he has health problems and it's no longer financially feasible to make new synths and has explicitly said Icarus 2 would be his last synth.

When people say things like that, especially given the state of the vst market, I tend to believe them.

FTR, I own almost every Tone 2 synth and am sorry to hear this news.

It just doesn't surprise me.

Anybody who expects this not to be the case I think is in for a big disappointment.

But, whatever.
Why you need to put in that way? because ok, we have to be realistic, but I also believe in solutions and solutions are possible.

So why not to believe Icarus can evolve and continuing being developed as long as there are some sales, even in a slower time period updates if needed? why not to believe woth the pass of the time Icarus 2 can be successful and give place in some years to Icarus 3?

You're a little bit pessimistic.
No, I'm a realist. I too have finished making sound libraries. It is no longer financially feasible. It was for a while, but no more. So I'm done. To that end, I no longer buy new synths. I don't need anymore and business wise, makes no sense. The return doesn't justify it.

Also, having health issues myself, I absolutely understand where Markus is coming from and empathize with him. It's hard enough working when you're not well even when times are good. But when they're not, forget it. You're done. Trust me.

So be as optimistic as you want. But I've been a Tone 2 customer long enough and am all too aware of Markus integrity (he's one of the good guys) to know that when he says he's done, he's done.

Eventually, you will see that to be the case.
Dude, just let it go...

samsam
KVRAF
3021 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:19 pm

Can't hold it back any - mooooore....

Echoes in the Attic
KVRAF
7303 posts since 12 May, 2008

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:22 pm

Dillinger wrote:
Sat Nov 30, 2019 3:32 pm
Hey, Icarus 2 looks like good fun!

When will it be released?

Any other details?
I think he said dec.6.
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Dillinger
KVRist
252 posts since 2 Apr, 2016

Re: Coming soon: Tone2 Icarus2

Post Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:14 pm

Ok, thanks
Looks big and beautiful!

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