Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

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tony10000
KVRian
538 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:02 pm

It seems that since Steinberg shut down new VST2 development, there hasn't been a lot of new synth activity (though many companies are working on updates). What is going on?

DPhil
KVRist
114 posts since 7 Dec, 2016

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:09 pm

There is no correlation between those 2 things. Almost every known dev is still able to release vst2 products due to their signed license agreements.
Maybe the market was only flooded for the past months/years and you feel like its dead now? Or some are waiting for new trends like the last workstation/wavetable trend brought up many new synths? Maybe those all-in-one synth just can get in feature updates what others would release as standalone synths?

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SCprogfan
KVRist
156 posts since 9 Feb, 2013

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:25 pm

No.

tony10000
KVRian
538 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:46 pm

I was basing this by checking out the latest instruments on KVR:

https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/instru ... aid/newest

Infected-Sounds seems to be the most prolific dev recently (never heard of them) and the most notable recent new synths are Massive X, Vecto, BIT, Europa, Wusik ZR, and Phaseplant. What am I missing?

ralfrobert
KVRist
224 posts since 24 Jul, 2017

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:49 pm

MSoundfactory?

tony10000
KVRian
538 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:52 pm

Yep...that one was on page 5. So seven total in the last year or so?

tony10000
KVRian
538 posts since 4 Aug, 2017

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:55 pm

So, among the major devs, only Rob Papen, NI, Melda, and Kilohearts have put out something new. And Europa was removed from the market as a VSTi.

samsam
KVRAF
2785 posts since 9 Dec, 2008

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:46 pm

OP, I do love your 'big picture' questions. I'll leave the others with their finger on the global vst pulse to help you confirm the wetness of that particular pipeline.

mdstudio
KVRist
36 posts since 11 Dec, 2018

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 5:57 pm

tony10000 wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:55 pm
And Europa was removed from the market as a VSTi.
Oh, wow. Is that official? It's still available on the reseller sites, but I don't see it in the "Reason Studios" shop.

Jafo
KVRAF
1911 posts since 20 Dec, 2002 from The Benighted States of Trumpistan

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:03 pm

The pipeline has slowed a bit, sure, but not all that much. IK just put out a new organ; there was a small kerfuffle about here on the forum. Ultra Analog 3 might count. Depends on whether one decides these are major devs. Either way, VSTis are still around. Even VST2 still gets love. No need to be alarmed. So, relax and make some music.
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KBSoundSmith
KVRian
798 posts since 6 Jul, 2009

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:06 pm

tony10000 wrote:
Fri Oct 04, 2019 4:02 pm
It seems that since Steinberg shut down new VST2 development, there hasn't been a lot of new synth activity (though many companies are working on updates). What is going on?
This kind of reminds me of another thread a day or so ago. I'd say the following:

1st, don't overlook updates. Take a look at Hive 2, for example. If you compare Hive 2 to Hive 1 at its release, it's nearly a brand-new synth. The changes were non-trivial.

2nd, the market has matured quite a bit. Even a few years ago there was something of a wild-west vibe to development and people were comfortable throwing mud up against the wall to see what would stick. But customers have started to expect a certain standard of quality, and quality takes time to develop, which slows down established developers and creates a higher expectation of newcomers. Polished work doesn't happen overnight.

The pipeline isn't drying up IMO -- the water flow is simply going through some filtration systems it hadn't been before.

kvotchin
KVRist
179 posts since 9 Aug, 2018

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:38 pm

So, that implied rate of non-free plugins being released in ‘recent times’ (derived from an apparently arbitrary subset of KVR entries) - okay, what about earlier subsets of an equivalent timespan? How might rates derived from those compare?

And how is a ‘major player’ determined to be so?
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kvotchin
KVRist
179 posts since 9 Aug, 2018

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:39 pm

oops, double post

psynical
KVRist
94 posts since 16 Jan, 2019

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:42 pm

So, do you have VSTi release data for the past 10-20 years to measure against 2019 ?

psynical
KVRist
94 posts since 16 Jan, 2019

Re: Has the VSTi pipeline dried up?

Post Fri Oct 04, 2019 6:43 pm

Or are you complaining that there aren't yet enough soft-synths on the market?

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