Catalina and plugins

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Forgotten
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4519 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:16 am

That would be a good idea, and maybe keep updating the first post so that there’s a running list of plugins that are known to work without issues?

Hopefully non-Mac users will show more respect than they have in this thread and not use a new one to give us more of their monosyllabic rants.

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Calenberger
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205 posts since 8 Sep, 2019

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:20 am

wagtunes wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:54 am
Apple sucks. Apple always has sucked. Apple always WILL suck.

Windows user since DOS 3.0

Apple can burn in hell along with Camel Audio for all I care.
Thanks for your constructive discussion participation.
It opened my blind eyes.
This statement changes everything for me.
I might say: It's a real game changer!
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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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14298 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:34 am

acid alex wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:11 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 7:40 am
acid alex wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:57 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:04 am
Perhaps we should make a 'One Catalina Thread To Rule Them All!', in which we keep the first post updated to reflect the compatibility status of plugins :tu:

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That’s not a bad idea. I’ll update the title and thread when I get home tonight
If you want to, that's great. But I have a lot of free time at the moment, so if you'd rather not have to keep updating it, then I could just start a new thread :tu:
Yes sure, if you have time :-)
Here we are:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=532955

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf9DYeePLJY

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plexuss
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3382 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:56 am

Forgotten wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:16 am
That would be a good idea, and maybe keep updating the first post so that there’s a running list of plugins that are known to work without issues?
Sweetwater seems to do a good job of this.

Catalina: https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... lity-list/

Mojave: https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... atibility/

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fisherKing
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1948 posts since 6 Aug, 2009

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:40 am

i updated to catalina on the 7th, and so far, everything works (am in logic X); 95% of my plugins are 3rd-party, all they... work. am (so far) impressed...
always one plugin short of perfection...

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KVRAF
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:45 am

Which plugins? el-bo started a thread to track software that works:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=532955

This makes me think I might try the upgrade tonight...

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:49 am

fisherKing wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:40 am
i updated to catalina on the 7th, and so far, everything works (am in logic X); 95% of my plugins are 3rd-party, all they... work. am (so far) impressed...
I wonder if this is because Apple have given developers a little bit of breathing space (Until Jan 2020, I believe). It may be the case, that the plugins will need an update between now and then :shrug:

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:50 am

plexuss wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 9:56 am
Forgotten wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 8:16 am
That would be a good idea, and maybe keep updating the first post so that there’s a running list of plugins that are known to work without issues?
Sweetwater seems to do a good job of this.

Catalina: https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... lity-list/

Mojave: https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/ar ... atibility/

Ok, that's interesting! There are some things missing from their Cat list, but it'll save us a lot of work.

Cheers, P :tu:

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:52 am

Forgotten wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:45 am
Which plugins? el-bo started a thread to track software that works:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=532955

This makes me think I might try the upgrade tonight...
With Plexus sharing those links, that thread need to be changed. The Sweetwater lists aren't complete, so it'll still probably be worth updating. Will look at it again, on the morrow :tu:

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KVRAF
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:53 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:49 am
fisherKing wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:40 am
i updated to catalina on the 7th, and so far, everything works (am in logic X); 95% of my plugins are 3rd-party, all they... work. am (so far) impressed...
I wonder if this is because Apple have given developers a little bit of breathing space (Until Jan 2020, I believe). It may be the case, that the plugins will need an update between now and then :shrug:
Possibly, but I don’t know that I really expected that many problems anyway. I think there’s been a hefty dose of wanting to see Apple fail driving a lot of the upgrade horror stories.

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:59 am

fisherKing wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:40 am
i updated to catalina on the 7th, and so far, everything works (am in logic X); 95% of my plugins are 3rd-party, all they... work. am (so far) impressed...
Just to refer you to this comment on the compatibility thread.

viewtopic.php?p=7540868#p7540868

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plexuss
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3382 posts since 8 Jul, 2009

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:00 am

el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:52 am
Forgotten wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:45 am
Which plugins? el-bo started a thread to track software that works:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=532955

This makes me think I might try the upgrade tonight...
With Plexus sharing those links, that thread need to be changed. The Sweetwater lists aren't complete, so it'll still probably be worth updating. Will look at it again, on the morrow :tu:
They update them over time. So there may be a delay between what you know and what they know and them getting around to posting it. You could interface with them and send them the info you have as you get it. I am pretty sure they are relying partly on people's feedback to them.

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el-bo (formerly ebow)
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Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:01 am

plexuss wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:00 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:52 am
Forgotten wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:45 am
Which plugins? el-bo started a thread to track software that works:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=532955

This makes me think I might try the upgrade tonight...
With Plexus sharing those links, that thread need to be changed. The Sweetwater lists aren't complete, so it'll still probably be worth updating. Will look at it again, on the morrow :tu:
They update them over time. So there may be a delay between what you know and what they know and them getting around to posting it. You could interface with them and send them the info you have as you get it. I am pretty sure they are relying partly on people's feedback to them.
Yeah! Will probably email them tomorrow to share some of the missing info. Cheers!

Noumena
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107 posts since 4 May, 2019

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 11:34 am

plexuss wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 8:04 pm
Noumena wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 7:39 pm
Anyone who plans to do a major version OS update within 6 months of release is obviously not doing work on that computer, audio or otherwise. [snip]So I say bravo to that. It will be worth a transition.
Agreed about the software mostly. I think they can do a better job of not breaking things and making everyone else pay (in time = money). The biggest issue for me is the need to run on newer apple hardware, which in my opinion, is no longer worth the money they are commanding. With so many design failures and inabilty to keep up with the market let alone either gouging further or taking a lot of stuff away, they just don't hit any optimial balance. For me I am afraid it will be a move to windoze. I'll say on high sierra as long as I can and then either get a Metal graphics card for my mac to move up to Mojave, maybe Catalina if its supported (I haven't checked). but after that, unless they put out a machine that make sense for the money, I'm switching platforms. I've already started to work with Reaper, going from Logic, in preparation for this.
The new Mac Minis are as reasonably priced for their performance as anything apples ever put out, I think. The $800 model out performs a 2018 15” MBP. I agree about the issues though, but I attempted to switch in 2017 and ended up spending $1600 to find that I couldn’t get reasonably low latency with my audio interfaces on that hardware with Windows and finally gave up, paid the Apple tax and was happy to do so. It is a real dilemma though... I do wish there was a revolutionary shift to Linux!

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teilo
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325 posts since 30 Mar, 2008

Re: Catalina and plugins

Post Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:31 pm

Someone here mentioned "crappy CoreAudio" issues with Macs. I have to ask: what issues specifically? This is one area that I have only ever heard people praise Apple for, specially compared to the cluster-fsck that is ASIO on Windows or (insert your audio API here) in Linux. In my experience, thanks to CoreAudio, low-latency audio that just works is pretty much a given on Mac. I have used a lot of different audio interfaces on Mac over the years (various Focusrite Sapphire and Scarlett models, Presonus firewire, various external DACs) and never had to so much as install a driver.
macOS | Ableton 10 | Bitwig 3.x | Reason 10
MPK249 | Scarlett 6i6 v2 | DX7 w/SER-7 | Adam Audio T7V & Sub8
U-he all | DSAudio all | All TAL synths | Komplete Ult. 12 | Serum | DUNE 3 | Arturia V 6 | Fabfilter Pro all | countless others

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