Babylon Synth by W.A Production

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Tj Shredder
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Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:11 am

They both appeared about at the same time, I got Union, but not Babylon. Babylon just looks as if its the standard architecture like millions of others and it is ridiculously little more "expensive". Union I just could not resist, Babylon I could...
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:20 pm

The thing is, Babylon sounds a lot better than Union. It has a huge bottom end, it has everything you need right now, a better range of filter types and it's easier to use. Babylon is a synth I could imagine people paying full price for, Union isn't. i.e. You'll only buy Union because it's cheap, you might buy Babylon because it's a pretty decent synth. Don't Gert me wrong, I don't mind Union but I think Babylon is a lot better.
exmatproton wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:45 pm
Maybe because this synth hasn't got much going on? It just is a good synth, but kinda "standard/basic/boring/simple"
Union is even more bare-bones than Babylon, which was kind of my point.
FotoxBr wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:31 am
I bought both Union and Babylon. Just because I am curious. They are both fun to explore.
Yeah, me too. I think Babylon is actually pretty good and it is extremely easy to work with. Union is a bit more limited but I love the GUI so it's just nice to explore.
I do not understand why some people are so negative about these inexpensive synths. I also bought Sektor and Wiggle while these were dirt cheap. I think it is funny that some people are explaining here that these synths are not as good as Diva, Serum, Phaseplant or whatever. Only buying one of these synths cost you 4 to 5 times as much as the 4 synths, that I mentioned earlier, together. Not even talking about hardware synths.
That's what annoys me about it, too. And the way people want to categorise everything. e.g. "I already have a wavetable synth so I don't need Sektor" kind of bullshit. It strikes me as really limited thinking from clueless idiots.
BlackWinny wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:04 am
There are many synths which are at these low prices (or even free) and which are awesome (or at least offering very original features to stand out from the common pack) as soon as their first release.
Wrong thread, this is Babylon, which has loads of features.
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zzz00m
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:32 pm

As far as inexpensive synths go, I took a chance on Fathom Pro last year, and Sektor more recently.

I am very impressed by the aggressive development and responsiveness to the community from the Fathom dev. That synth has a lot of potential and many unique features, and an interesting development plan for the future.

I like the Sektor UI, and the sounds are pretty good. I think it is fun and usable. I need to spend more time with it. I hope this one continues to receive much love from the dev team going forward.

So I will hold the line on the two most recent arrivals in the inexpensive synth category, Babylon and Union, as inexpensive as they are at the moment. Too many distractions on hand already, but based on the demos they look like fun. I am not convinced yet that these developers are committed to long term development of their synth products. But we shall see...
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bftucker
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1148 posts since 30 Apr, 2004 from Louisville, KY

Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:26 pm

Don't feel bad. No matter which thread he participates in, there is always at least one "clueless idiot"!!!!

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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:24 pm

At first I thought your user name was "butt-f**ker" but it's actually "buff-tucker" which is almost as funny.
zzz00m wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 4:32 pm
I am not convinced yet that these developers are committed to long term development of their synth products. But we shall see...
Why does that matter? Obviously in the case of Union, they have admitted there are missing features that will be added but if Babylon never receives an update again, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest.
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Astralv
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:53 pm

I bought it yesterday, and I was easily able to make few Dubstep sounds. The only problem I have is- I cant find how to change filter speed to sync to tempo. Like when it goes wab wab wab wab- it does not sync, and I at least need to be able to speed it up or slow it down, because without some kind of syncing or speed adjustment all the woobles are useless. Anybody sees how to adjust it? Thanks.

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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 7:04 pm

You need to turn on Sync in the LFO and then it should follow your host's tempo and be in time. From there you can change the note division to get the length you want/need.
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codec_spurt
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:08 pm

This synth is worth getting to play around with the Colundi micro-tonal intervals if nothing else. You may need to make these up yourself.

Other synths like Linplug can also do micro-tonal stuff.

I'm going to pick it up in the next few days if it's still available for this price.


See Aleksi Perala (from Rephlex Records) if you want to know more about the Colundi sequence (micro-tonality).

A true musical innovator:

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/q-a-wit ... erala.html

A very nice place to start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAr-jM4khZg

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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:52 pm

That doesn't even sound like music, it's more like a bunch of kids in a pre-school, and it goes on FOREVER. If that's what microtonal stuff is useful for, then it's not very useful at all.
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Tue Nov 05, 2019 10:29 pm

BONES wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:52 pm
That doesn't even sound like music, it's more like a bunch of kids in a pre-school, and it goes on FOREVER. If that's what microtonal stuff is useful for, then it's not very useful at all.

Well, you would know I guess.

Your words are more like crayons than something an adult would scrawl against a blackboard by mistake.

No offense.

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When will this 'Dirty Protest' of yours end?

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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:48 am

So we all just supposed to love everything, no matter how absolutely shithouse it really is? Grow up and try being honest for a change. Just because you like something doesn't make it good and that's just fine. The only thing that should matter is whether or not you like it.
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Distorted Horizon
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:25 am

BONES wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 6:24 pm
At first I thought your user name was "butt-f**ker" but it's actually "buff-tucker"
YES!! I'm not the only one!! :hyper:

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plexuss
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:35 am

codec_spurt wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:08 pm
See Aleksi Perala (from Rephlex Records) if you want to know more about the Colundi sequence (micro-tonality).
Very nice. Thanks for sharing Vol 2 which has 16 tracks. There are some really nice moments in this.

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Vortifex
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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Wed Nov 06, 2019 3:50 am

codec_spurt wrote:
Tue Nov 05, 2019 9:08 pm
A very nice place to start:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAr-jM4khZg
I've heard some of his earlier stuff but wasn't aware of this one. Really good stuff, that guy is seriously talented.

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Re: Babylon Synth by W.A Production

Post Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:27 am

BONES wrote:
Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:48 am
So we all just supposed to love everything, no matter how absolutely shithouse it really is? Grow up and try being honest for a change. Just because you like something doesn't make it good and that's just fine. The only thing that should matter is whether or not you like it.
You are right.

Let me take your philosophical viewpoint.
So we all just supposed to love everything
I suppose not.

Grow up.

I did. I just got 3 inches taller. And 5 years older. Thanks.

try being honest for a change

I tried it. It's great. I was so used to robbing people and ripping them off. I knew there was something missing in my soul. That was the ticket.

For example. I just fleeced a guy for 10K who thought he was buying a genuine Ferrari, but it was just a knock-off, of course. As he was heading down the road, I heard your words in my head. I telephoned him immediately. I said: "Do not drive that death-trap an inch further my gullible little friend".

It felt good to be 'honest for a change'. I don't think I could have done it without you, Bones.

Just because you like something doesn't make it good and that's just fine

That's right. I like having my balls nailed to the table by stern looking women in Leather. It may not be 'good'. That's 'fine'.

The only thing that should matter is whether or not you like it.

I do like it!

I can't get enough of it!

:party:

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