Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

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Post Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:32 pm

zzz00m wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 5:26 pm
The PDF manual is a free download from the Soundspot website.
Its actually included in the download, too.
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Tj Shredder
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Sun Nov 03, 2019 8:01 am

At least the filter of oscillator 3 is paraphonic, or the mod envelope is retriggered for held notes.
To reproduce. take sound Dirty Bar Steward from the Plucks. switch off osc 1 & 2, switch off all effects, and play. Its very obvious...
I would like to find out why its acting like that, I must say I am not so sure if I understood that sort of "wavetable" creation at all. Its something different and might be interesting in itself. I just want to understand how its implemented. I would rather advertise it as something radically new than as a wavetable...

edit: it seems on the next sound "Don't tell Zebedee" all oscillators behave like that...

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Distorted Horizon
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3198 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

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Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:42 am

Nice little synth. Wouldn't pay premium price but for a beer? Easily worth few beers :tu:

(pint of beer is around 8-9€ here).

Wonder if there's a bug in vst3 version. When I close osc 1&2, then hit that wt generation button, all the sounds are lost.

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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:45 am

Distorted Horizon wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:42 am

Wonder if there's a bug in vst3 version. When I close osc 1&2, then hit that wt generation button, all the sounds are lost.
The wave table is generated from the osc 1&2 signal path. No signal, no sounds...
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:11 am

zzz00m wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 5:45 am
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:42 am

Wonder if there's a bug in vst3 version. When I close osc 1&2, then hit that wt generation button, all the sounds are lost.
The wave table is generated from the osc 1&2 signal path. No signal, no sounds...
Ah.. That explains it.. Thx :tu:
And no, I'm not going to read the manual :lol:

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Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:57 am

Distorted Horizon wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:11 am

And no, I'm not going to read the manual :lol:
Well at 18 pages, it's no encyclopedia, that's for sure... :D

If you missed it, the OP already posted a helpful quick start video on page 1.
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900 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Belgium

Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:12 am

Nice, used my 'Virtual Cash' on Plugin Boutique to pay for this synth, so basically got it for free :D

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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:12 am

zzz00m wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:57 am
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:11 am

And no, I'm not going to read the manual :lol:
Well at 18 pages, it's no encyclopedia, that's for sure... :D

If you missed it, the OP already posted a helpful quick start video on page 1.
The Massive X manual I have has 128 pages...
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Mon Nov 04, 2019 11:29 am

Calenberger wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 10:12 am
zzz00m wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:57 am
Distorted Horizon wrote:
Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:11 am

And no, I'm not going to read the manual :lol:
Well at 18 pages, it's no encyclopedia, that's for sure... :D

If you missed it, the OP already posted a helpful quick start video on page 1.
The Massive X manual I have has 128 pages...
OK. :clap:
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:33 am

Nice sounding synth with fresh presets, like the layout and easy filter LFO routing.

Modwheel is non existent on this synth, never mind the modulation - If we could have modwheel be included to the LFO routing option, that would be gold.

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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:16 pm

That, and the non-existent velocity is the deal breaker for me right now.

I like the synth look and layout, and it clearly has a lot of potential when/if the missing features are addressed.

Not sure what they were thinking by releasing a synth missing such basic synth features? Velocity and modulation have been part of the MIDI standard for over 30 years! :dog:
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:38 am

Basspartout wrote:
Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:22 am
Nice GUI and easy sounddesign, but the HUGE CPU load makes it impossible to use for me. :-(
CPU load is a function of the number of unison voices x number of held notes along with envelope release length. With 32 possible unison voices per oscillator and 3 oscillators, it is very easy to overload your CPU with this synth. However, if you use lower unison values, CPU usage is not really that bad.

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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:25 pm

zzz00m wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:16 pm
That, and the non-existent velocity is the deal breaker for me right now.

I like the synth look and layout, and it clearly has a lot of potential when/if the missing features are addressed.

Not sure what they were thinking by releasing a synth missing such basic synth features? Velocity and modulation have been part of the MIDI standard for over 30 years! :dog:
I think Soundspot are very good at concept, design, and GUI implementation but they should probably partner with someone else to actually make the plugins.

I get the sense that they are not musicians but more graphic designers in spirit.

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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 2:38 pm

Yes, I've often thought the same thing. Many of their plugins don't seem to do anything useful (and often not all that well, either). But the good ones are actually quite good.
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Re: Soundspot Union Wavetable Synth out today

Post Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:01 pm

I am intrigued by Union. It certainly wouldn't be an all arounder but it looks like it would be fun to work with for a certain type of sounds.
Something with a small range but a quick and easy workflow could maybe find a place in my inceasingly crowded arsenal.

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