Genesis Pro

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DJErmac
KVRian
973 posts since 25 Apr, 2009 from France

Post Thu Mar 19, 2020 4:36 pm

surreal wrote:
Thu Mar 19, 2020 1:26 pm
Well the sound that I wanted most is in the rom and its useless to me...as it is chorded.. thats what I hear according to the demo.. can some one check if it is prechorded or if it a chorded setting on a rom... the sound is felix organ
Non, you can untick every harmony, I did it yesterday.

bwwd
KVRist
444 posts since 27 Feb, 2007

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:12 am

Ah i wish samples were normalized, volume is all over the place , i hope he will fix that before attempting to release soundbanks.
I started making some patches
https://soundcloud.com/bwwd/genesis-guitar-strings
https://soundcloud.com/bwwd/genesis-piano-patch

godly
KVRian
871 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:23 am

Ok I installed, but couldn't specify where. I've found the files in
C:\Program Files (x86)\GenesisPro\System
but where is the dll?
My sounddesign: Synth1/Ex5/D-50 patches https://goo.gl/zE3pkk
My stuff: W10x64i7 15" laptop, Reaper/Cantabile3+Synth1+Avenger on stage+NordStage2+Samson Graphite 49
Loving new VPS Avenger! Check my skins! https://goo.gl/MBNJHj

Sughosha
KVRist
48 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:26 am

godly wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:23 am
Ok I installed, but couldn't specify where. I've found the files in
C:\Program Files (x86)\GenesisPro\System
but where is the dll?
dll files are in this folder:
"C:\Program Files (86)\Steinberg"

godly
KVRian
871 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:55 am

Wonderfull synth !
My sounddesign: Synth1/Ex5/D-50 patches https://goo.gl/zE3pkk
My stuff: W10x64i7 15" laptop, Reaper/Cantabile3+Synth1+Avenger on stage+NordStage2+Samson Graphite 49
Loving new VPS Avenger! Check my skins! https://goo.gl/MBNJHj

devilnishy
KVRist
192 posts since 25 Oct, 2008

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:37 am

Pet hate of mine installers not giving you the option of where to install then distributing their contents all over your hard drive.

godly
KVRian
871 posts since 22 May, 2013 from Gent, Belgium

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:40 am

Yeah I'd love to move the content to other locations also, it's certainly a reason why I would remove the synth, because I need my space on my startup SSD.

Kudos to Ozcam, the sound design is super !!! Very inspiring and retro dance sounds ! Love it
My sounddesign: Synth1/Ex5/D-50 patches https://goo.gl/zE3pkk
My stuff: W10x64i7 15" laptop, Reaper/Cantabile3+Synth1+Avenger on stage+NordStage2+Samson Graphite 49
Loving new VPS Avenger! Check my skins! https://goo.gl/MBNJHj

Sughosha
KVRist
48 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:43 am

Hi guys,

I figured out how to run Genesis Pro in 64-bit-only DAW without any crackles!!!

Instead of using jBridge, use this app TBridge (introduced in this topic viewtopic.php?f=22&t=541622), which is based on NetVST and built recently. Currently the default language is Chinese and it has bugs in changing language to English, but by seeing the tutorials on it's official site I was able to figure out working with it. I just started using it on Waveform 11 (64-bit) which does not have native bridging. I loaded Genesis Pro through TBridge and everything worked perfectly (except license error etc. which y'all know).

I have not tried yet closing and saving, so don't know if it's be able to save the plugin parameters. Also, couldn't figure out how to sync tempo to the host DAW.

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overhishead
KVRist
378 posts since 21 Jan, 2007

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 1:55 pm

Does anybody have a copy of the instruction manual? I just want to look at the features at a glance.

grymmjack
KVRAF
8508 posts since 7 Apr, 2003

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:13 pm

has anyone figured out how to tune the oscillators with cents independent from each other?

grymmjack
KVRAF
8508 posts since 7 Apr, 2003

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:14 pm

Sughosha wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:43 am
Hi guys,

I figured out how to run Genesis Pro in 64-bit-only DAW without any crackles!!!

Instead of using jBridge, use this app TBridge (introduced in this topic viewtopic.php?f=22&t=541622), which is based on NetVST and built recently. Currently the default language is Chinese and it has bugs in changing language to English, but by seeing the tutorials on it's official site I was able to figure out working with it. I just started using it on Waveform 11 (64-bit) which does not have native bridging. I loaded Genesis Pro through TBridge and everything worked perfectly (except license error etc. which y'all know).

I have not tried yet closing and saving, so don't know if it's be able to save the plugin parameters. Also, couldn't figure out how to sync tempo to the host DAW.
for me all i had to do was this:
jbridge settings > performance mode (ignore warning)

then it worked without crackles.

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getdunne
KVRist
122 posts since 9 Mar, 2017

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:30 pm

Sughosha wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:43 am
Hi guys,

I figured out how to run Genesis Pro in 64-bit-only DAW without any crackles!!!

Instead of using jBridge, use this app TBridge (introduced in this topic viewtopic.php?f=22&t=541622), which is based on NetVST and built recently. Currently the default language is Chinese and it has bugs in changing language to English, but by seeing the tutorials on it's official site I was able to figure out working with it. I just started using it on Waveform 11 (64-bit) which does not have native bridging. I loaded Genesis Pro through TBridge and everything worked perfectly (except license error etc. which y'all know).

I have not tried yet closing and saving, so don't know if it's be able to save the plugin parameters. Also, couldn't figure out how to sync tempo to the host DAW.
You can use the NetVST tools without TBridge. As far as I can tell, all TBridge adds is a Chinese-language interface and a simple VST browser. It's basically a kind of wrapper around NetVSTHost.exe, which is the actual networked VST host.

Performance is indeed less crackly than with jBridge, but I wasn't satisfied I was hearing NO crackles, though, so I just did some detailed experiments and determined that the few crackles I was hearing actually come from Genesis Pro itself. Its sample-playback engine appears to produce occasional discontinuities, either because of poorly-chosen loop points or perhaps bad code. Putting an oscilloscope on the output also shows frequent hard clipping in some patches, but this may be intentional, i.e. part of the sound design.

I'm the developer behind NetVST, but I haven't touched it for quite some time, as I'm busy working on a product called Unify (viewtopic.php?f=1&t=535636). A future version of Unify will have NetVST-based networking built-in, and will, I hope, address many of NetVST's limitations.

The NetVST tools are very basic. They don't support saving plug-in state, host automation, or even sample rates other than 44.1 kHz. When I wrote the NetVST code, I didn't know nearly as much about audio programming as I do now. On the plus side, NetVST does allow you to access Windows-only VSTs across a LAN, even from a Mac.

trusampler
KVRian
1045 posts since 2 Jul, 2007

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:42 pm

I'm playing with Genesis on a fairly older model pc windows 10 (i7 4790k ) with antelope discrete 8 @64 samples, using jbridge
( latest version 1.75 ) with performance mode enabled actually in Unify and have absolutely no pops and clicks whatsoever going on here.Jbridge does have some tweaks users can attempt to try to get it smoother. :tu:
Cpu: Win10/2015 Mac Pro i7@4.3ghz/SSDs
Tools: Slate VMS/Antelope Audio Discrete 8 Synergy Core/Heritage Audio R.A.M.2000/API Lunchbox 6/Dyn Audio Bm5a MK2+Adam Audio
Powercore Virus B/Akai MPC Touch/Korg Wavestate/Komplete Kontrol MK2/Samples/Vst

Sughosha
KVRist
48 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:13 pm

grymmjack wrote:
Fri Mar 20, 2020 4:14 pm
for me all i had to do was this:
jbridge settings > performance mode (ignore warning)

then it worked without crackles.
Ok. Tried it and Genesis is now working properly. Thanks.
But problem is that everytime I load the plugin it gives an error saying the DAW is not running with administrator privillages. (Although the plugin works properly, but don't know if it gives any error in future)

Sughosha
KVRist
48 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Fri Mar 20, 2020 9:19 pm

Also is there any way to remove the box at the bottom where jBridge version and Settings button etc. are shown? Not a big problem but I want to see clean Genesis as it is and to feel at least that I'm running 64-bit Genesis Pro. :roll:

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