Genesis Pro

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TheMaestro
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25 posts since 26 Jan, 2020

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:27 am

chk071 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:55 pm
TheMaestro wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:16 pm
chk071 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:30 am
I don't have a problem with collecting user data, if it's transparent. NI also does metrics. Helps to tailor the software to the user's need, a.k.a. "they hear on every user's wish!".

It might be different here, and, it also might be the reason why the synth is so cheap, but, hell... I don't get all this "evil business" stuff anyway. Esepcially in such a small business, almost every business is getting an evil eye when they want to make sure that dinner is on the table in the evening. Don't get it, really. In a world where there is currency, everyone has to make sure to make a living. I doubt any of the people always blaming companies who do so work for free in their day job, so...
What has “working for free” and “dinner on the table” have to do with collecting data?
If this is the business model, which seems to be the terrible norm these days, I really wish you would go out of business.

NI even collects city and country. Tell me how that improves the product. And has their usage data collection ever amounted to anything?
Do you want me to teach you how companies are earning money by collecting and processing data now?
The point, that you somehow missed, is (especially) if you're a VST developer and your business model is based on user data collection, you really deserve to go out of business.
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NatLife
KVRian
618 posts since 12 Jul, 2004

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:19 am

Stryves wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:21 pm
NatLife wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:20 pm
Guys, anyone compared this synth to the top line of VST's?
It's not even released yet...
ah, i thought it was) alot of demos on youtube, but i feel some double opinion about sound quality
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claudedefaren
KVRist
114 posts since 10 Mar, 2013

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:20 am

TheMaestro wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 8:27 am
chk071 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:55 pm
TheMaestro wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 1:16 pm
chk071 wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:30 am
I don't have a problem with collecting user data, if it's transparent. NI also does metrics. Helps to tailor the software to the user's need, a.k.a. "they hear on every user's wish!".

It might be different here, and, it also might be the reason why the synth is so cheap, but, hell... I don't get all this "evil business" stuff anyway. Esepcially in such a small business, almost every business is getting an evil eye when they want to make sure that dinner is on the table in the evening. Don't get it, really. In a world where there is currency, everyone has to make sure to make a living. I doubt any of the people always blaming companies who do so work for free in their day job, so...
What has “working for free” and “dinner on the table” have to do with collecting data?
If this is the business model, which seems to be the terrible norm these days, I really wish you would go out of business.

NI even collects city and country. Tell me how that improves the product. And has their usage data collection ever amounted to anything?
Do you want me to teach you how companies are earning money by collecting and processing data now?
The point, that you somehow missed, is (especially) if you're a VST developer and your business model is based on user data collection, you really deserve to go out of business.
Why do you think that?

AnX
KVRAF
6159 posts since 17 Nov, 2015

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:01 am

NatLife wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 10:19 am
Stryves wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:21 pm
NatLife wrote:
Sat Feb 08, 2020 3:20 pm
Guys, anyone compared this synth to the top line of VST's?
It's not even released yet...
ah, i thought it was) alot of demos on youtube, but i feel some double opinion about sound quality
from the YT vids and specs, it's not great.

for virtually free, it's ok

im not gonna slag the bloke off, it's peanuts, but not even on my radar

if you own any decent synth, it's prob not on yours...

NextGen
KVRist
38 posts since 14 Jan, 2008

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am

Hi Guys,

To answer one of the most frequently asked question whether the Genesis is 32 or 64 bit, it's unfortunately 32bit and It's windows only. I know, I would have seen it differently as well. But the project has become so huge and complex over time that it is not easy to port it to 64bit/mac. Having that said it's not impossible and I am checking all the possibilities. 

I started this project 8 years ago with my passion for sound, synthesis and with the ambition to share my creation, my knowledge with as many people as possible.
Nonetheless I still hope that the Genesis can help you with your creative process.

Cooker
KVRian
826 posts since 29 Jul, 2008

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:19 am

NextGen wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
...
Works for me, but why not make it 2euro and hire a programmer to port it in the future :shrug:

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SampleScience
KVRAF
3987 posts since 31 Oct, 2004 from Mtl, Canada

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:24 am

NextGen wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
Hi Guys,

To answer one of the most frequently asked question whether the Genesis is 32 or 64 bit, it's unfortunately 32bit and It's windows only. I know, I would have seen it differently as well. But the project has become so huge and complex over time that it is not easy to port it to 64bit/mac. Having that said it's not impossible and I am checking all the possibilities. 

I started this project 8 years ago with my passion for sound, synthesis and with the ambition to share my creation, my knowledge with as many people as possible.
Nonetheless I still hope that the Genesis can help you with your creative process.
Thank you for your honesty! I'm going to buy it anyway as I think it sounds great and I really dig its functionalities. You probably did the best SE synth of all time! :tu:

izonin
KVRian
1250 posts since 27 Oct, 2009

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:36 am

SampleScience wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:24 am
You probably did the best SE synth of all time! :tu:
Even better than Sylenth1? Let's see. :wink:

carlosigls
KVRist
62 posts since 9 Nov, 2012

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:42 am

NextGen wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
Hi Guys,

To answer one of the most frequently asked question whether the Genesis is 32 or 64 bit, it's unfortunately 32bit and It's windows only. I know, I would have seen it differently as well. But the project has become so huge and complex over time that it is not easy to port it to 64bit/mac. Having that said it's not impossible and I am checking all the possibilities. 

I started this project 8 years ago with my passion for sound, synthesis and with the ambition to share my creation, my knowledge with as many people as possible.
Nonetheless I still hope that the Genesis can help you with your creative process.
It's a shame that it's only 32 bits but I'll buy it anyway.

Stryves
KVRer
22 posts since 22 Jun, 2018 from Hamilton, ON Canada

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:23 pm

NextGen wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
Hi Guys,

To answer one of the most frequently asked question whether the Genesis is 32 or 64 bit, it's unfortunately 32bit and It's windows only. I know, I would have seen it differently as well. But the project has become so huge and complex over time that it is not easy to port it to 64bit/mac. Having that said it's not impossible and I am checking all the possibilities. 

I started this project 8 years ago with my passion for sound, synthesis and with the ambition to share my creation, my knowledge with as many people as possible.
Nonetheless I still hope that the Genesis can help you with your creative process.
Thank you for the explanation, buying it still!

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Distorted Horizon
KVRAF
3224 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:25 pm

Will buy it even if it was 5€
Still hoping that it'd become x64 :D

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MuzikFreq
KVRist
85 posts since 29 Apr, 2019

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:28 pm

NextGen wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
Hi Guys,

To answer one of the most frequently asked question whether the Genesis is 32 or 64 bit, it's unfortunately 32bit and It's windows only. I know, I would have seen it differently as well. But the project has become so huge and complex over time that it is not easy to port it to 64bit/mac. Having that said it's not impossible and I am checking all the possibilities. 

I started this project 8 years ago with my passion for sound, synthesis and with the ambition to share my creation, my knowledge with as many people as possible.
Nonetheless I still hope that the Genesis can help you with your creative process.
Could talk to Adam Szabo, he has converted his stuff to 64bit. Even Viper was first 32bit :wink:
Though might take longer for all the stuff you put into yours.
btw Adam, wheres dat sale? :lol: jk jk

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mladi
KVRian
875 posts since 14 Apr, 2016 from Germany

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:36 pm

NextGen wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:06 am
But the project has become so huge and complex over time that it is not easy to port it to 64bit/mac. Having that said it's not impossible and I am checking all the possibilities. 
:tu:
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gruberman
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259 posts since 30 Aug, 2002

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:39 pm

izonin wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:36 am
SampleScience wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:24 am
You probably did the best SE synth of all time! :tu:
Even better than Sylenth1? Let's see. :wink:
Sylenth1 has always been programmed in C++. SynthEdit was used for some UI stuff only.
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izonin
KVRian
1250 posts since 27 Oct, 2009

Re: Genesis Pro

Post Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:59 pm

gruberman wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 12:39 pm
izonin wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:36 am
SampleScience wrote:
Sun Feb 09, 2020 11:24 am
You probably did the best SE synth of all time! :tu:
Even better than Sylenth1? Let's see. :wink:
Sylenth1 has always been programmed in C++. SynthEdit was used for some UI stuff only.
Genesis Pro is built with SEMs (32-bit modules written in C++). Under the hood they are both coded in C++.

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