New Pigments 2 Thread (On Topic Discussion Only, Please)

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LoveEnigma18
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Post Sat Aug 01, 2020 6:09 am

Vatta wrote:
Sat Aug 01, 2020 4:58 am
Hi guys i know this is stupid question.

Is pigment different from pigment 2? Because mine show pigment not pigment 2.
Thank you
Pigments 2 is a significant update of Pigments (1) and is free for all users of Pigments (1). Just check your Arturia Software Center and download/update.

However, it will only show up as "Pigments" in both standalone and VST/whatever. You can check the "about" for the exact version installed.
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SebAV
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Post Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:01 pm

SebAV wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 8:52 am
Does anybody use the vst3 version on Live ? I’m experiencing big latency when changing presets. No such latency with other vst3s or the vst2 version
I’ve just updated to the last version and the problem is gone !

grannypantz
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2 posts since 4 Aug, 2020

Post Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:06 pm

Is it just me, or is this not a phenomenal synth?

Downloaded the demo on whim, hesitated mainly because my CPU is sort of old and slow (struggles with more some more complex Alchemy patches in Logic), was thoroughly impressed in the first hour or so. So much so that I bought it. :party:

It being on sale gave me a nice nudge (on sale through the 12th for half off, for those wondering).

After more time with it, even more impressed! :hyper:

Easy modulation. Two layers of sounds to work with (while still being easy on the CPU :party: ). A nice selection of somewhat unconventional filters. Easy drag and drop sample import, even for the Wavetable section. 8)

Groovy man. :phones:

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c_voltage
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Post Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:31 am

grannypantz wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:06 pm
Is it just me, or is this not a phenomenal synth?

Downloaded the demo on whim, hesitated mainly because my CPU is sort of old and slow (struggles with more some more complex Alchemy patches in Logic), was thoroughly impressed in the first hour or so. So much so that I bought it. :party:

It being on sale gave me a nice nudge (on sale through the 12th for half off, for those wondering).

After more time with it, even more impressed! :hyper:

Easy modulation. Two layers of sounds to work with (while still being easy on the CPU :party: ). A nice selection of somewhat unconventional filters. Easy drag and drop sample import, even for the Wavetable section. 8)

Groovy man. :phones:
Usually was complaints only about sound of his Analog section and maybe built in effects (reverb), in any other aspects (especially modulation system that near to unique) this is many praises and door to one of parallel realities.

Tendou
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174 posts since 10 Mar, 2020

Post Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:05 pm

c_voltage wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:31 am
grannypantz wrote:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 10:06 pm
Is it just me, or is this not a phenomenal synth?

Downloaded the demo on whim, hesitated mainly because my CPU is sort of old and slow (struggles with more some more complex Alchemy patches in Logic), was thoroughly impressed in the first hour or so. So much so that I bought it. :party:

It being on sale gave me a nice nudge (on sale through the 12th for half off, for those wondering).

After more time with it, even more impressed! :hyper:

Easy modulation. Two layers of sounds to work with (while still being easy on the CPU :party: ). A nice selection of somewhat unconventional filters. Easy drag and drop sample import, even for the Wavetable section. 8)

Groovy man. :phones:
Usually was complaints only about sound of his Analog section and maybe built in effects (reverb), in any other aspects (especially modulation system that near to unique) this is many praises and door to one of parallel realities.
I hope then that Hive 2 complements well for the analog OSCs to compensate for Pigments since I thought to sell it bc I bought Hive 2 and it sounds sooo good and I need a reason to keep both :D

damayor
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161 posts since 12 Feb, 2015

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:55 am

Pigments is one of my favorite synth that I have. Always can make something good in it. Presets are good ones the expansions. Between dune 3, pigments and Ana 2 it wood be Sophie's choice on which one to get rid of first

grannypantz
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Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:04 am

c_voltage wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 11:31 am
Usually was complaints only about sound of his Analog section and maybe built in effects (reverb)...
I just checked out the Analog section last night, and yeah some of the oscillators seem kind of.... I don't know... Off, but there's enough there to do some things, and I'm kind of liking that it's maybe slightly different.

And I've come to the point where I don't really expect much from built in effects.

I was mainly interested in what it could do with samples anyways, and in that regard it's very compelling.

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c_voltage
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Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 12:08 pm

grannypantz wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:04 am
mainly interested in what it could do with samples anyways,
Yes, if samples, then you made the right choice. This is most delicious part of this quest (after modulation ofcourse).

chagzuki
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1989 posts since 26 Mar, 2002 from london

Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 2:05 pm

I decided to buy Pigments as my main instrument in getting back into music making after a long break. So far it seems to cover all bases... I'm loving it. The only thing I've so far stumbled upon which I think might be a drawback is the lack of pan controls on the synths prior to the filters... so for creative panning options one would have to make strategic use of the filter signal path options. Unless I've missed something, that is... I've only had it a couple of days. I also wish there were pan options on the FX, so you could position a mono reverb in the stereo field etc.. But for the most part it seems fantastic. I have had some GUI scale issues though on Windows 10... that's a pain in the ass.
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damayor
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Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 4:06 pm

BONES wrote:
Sat Jan 11, 2020 9:18 pm
I've also noticed with DUNE that you can sometimes turn half the effects off without changing the sound at all. It's almost like one or two of the preset designers were using some kind of preset randomiser to make new patches and not going back to clean them up so they make sense to someone trying to edit them.
I fully agree I often turn off the delay on both the effects 1 & 2 and there's still a damn delay. I check the appegietor and nothing. I'm like wtf did they use and I try to trace the preset down and nothing. So I agree it's almost like they used a preset maker to eat embedded some things in or I'm just not seeing a feature/menu in the program to turn something if. Pigments is fairly easy to use by clicking and clacking and getting the hang of things without reading the manual.

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BONES
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Post Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:29 pm

Tendou wrote:
Tue Aug 04, 2020 2:05 pm
I hope then that Hive 2 complements well for the analog OSCs to compensate for Pigments since I thought to sell it bc I bought Hive 2 and it sounds sooo good and I need a reason to keep both :D
I have both but I use Pigments a lot more than Hive.
grannypantz wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 11:04 am
And I've come to the point where I don't really expect much from built in effects.
I've never understood what people expect from on-board effects. Big, expansive reverbs that make an individual patch sound amazing just clog up a mix and turn it to mud. I either turn the on-board effects off, in favour of global reverb/delay through sends, or I back them right off to the point where it no longer matters how good or bad they are. I've always though that if you can tell the quality of a delay or reverb, then you are probably using too much of it. I save the high quality stuff for my sends, where you can definitely tell the difference.
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Ohlson_M
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135 posts since 20 May, 2016

Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:13 am

It was a couple of months ago I tried the demo so this might have been fixed, but is it possible to remove the constantly moving LFOs in the middle of the GUI? I don’t want that distraction when programming patches.

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WatchTheGuitar
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2372 posts since 30 Apr, 2019

Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:37 am

Ohlson_M wrote:
Thu Aug 06, 2020 6:13 am
It was a couple of months ago I tried the demo so this might have been fixed, but is it possible to remove the constantly moving LFOs in the middle of the GUI? I don’t want that distraction when programming patches.
I find it a really useful visual aid that enhances patch creation. One man’s meat...

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c_voltage
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Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 7:53 am

BONES wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:29 pm
I've never understood what people expect from on-board effects.
There is instruments where builtin effects does big job, that in cord of synthesis abilities give sometimes unique result (good example - Synapse Audio Antidote, has a set of very cool effects, and especially the reverb, which has become almost a classic in the RE format, existing in a separate plugin as well), whereas using external favorites - the thing is also right, but has its own logical nuances, as an additional consumption of resources and time for tuning (against saving everything as a single preset). Not to mention sometimes interesting tricks via modulation to effects parameters (thru synth envelopes etc).

Added: btw, i liked sound of Antidote more than Dune 2 and 3. Especially pads\unison character.

SamDi
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102 posts since 27 Apr, 2018

Post Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:24 am

BONES wrote:
Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:29 pm
I have both but I use Pigments a lot more than Hive.
Didn't you once tell, that you would like to use Pigments more often, but you can't, because it hardly fits in your mixes in opposite to Hive? What was the reason? How did you solve it? Just interested.

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