dear god no....
Future of Synthesizers
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- addled muppet weed
- 105852 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Elektronisch wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:22 pmI wonder how you came up with this "fact" of yours.izonin wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 7:55 pm Hey guys!
Wanted to start a broader topic concerning the future of the synthesizers that we use in our productions.
For the last 30 years VA has pretty much dominated both in hardware and in software. I'll just mention a few popular synths.
JP-8000
Virus
Nord Lead
Sylenth1
What do you guys think the trend will be for the next 30 years? Will we see a decline of the subtractive synths, or they will evolve into something new and better? Or maybe reach an iconic status, like the Fender Stratocaster?
I dont see any domination of jp virus and nord leads except in forums like KVR. And then its only more of a legend status, romantised incredible sounding synths that are only talked about.
Yes, this list contains the less interesting part of synth history.
My list:
Moog modular
PPG
Dx7
CZ 101
K 5000
Oh wait this is all last millennium, and no VA at all, only one real analog...
Only granular was added more recently?
I hope inventors will eventually do new unheard stuff...
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- KVRAF
- 5140 posts since 22 Jul, 2006 from Tasmania, Australia
likwid-cooled SHARCs
-bit late to the party
Nord G2 and Andromeda have got to come up
-bit late to the party
Nord G2 and Andromeda have got to come up
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- KVRAF
- 2269 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Yes, new, unheard stuff, my hope also. I would also like to see advances in PM and additive. Hybrids have potential such as Kaivo, etc. I would like to see “ease of use” become a lesser selling point but that’s not likely in this “one button, ML, soon to be AI” age.Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:37 pm
Yes, this list contains the less interesting part of synth history.
My list:
Moog modular
PPG
Dx7
CZ 101
K 5000
Oh wait this is all last millennium, and no VA at all, only one real analog...
Only granular was added more recently?
I hope inventors will eventually do new unheard stuff...
gadgets an gizmos..make noise https://soundcloud.com/crystalawareness Restocked: 3/24
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
Machine learning seems to me to be the way forward, now that most traditional synthesis methods have been explored.
Also: flying cars
Also: flying cars
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRAF
- 8828 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Machine learning will unlikely produce new sounds, as it can only learn from known sounds. And the word traditional means all not most...; - )
Machine learning is interesting though, but on a different level...
To find new sounds needs real creativity.
But listening to most music, it seems recreating the already known is the trend... I would leave that to the machines, they can do it better, though it remains boring...
Machine learning is interesting though, but on a different level...
To find new sounds needs real creativity.
But listening to most music, it seems recreating the already known is the trend... I would leave that to the machines, they can do it better, though it remains boring...
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- KVRian
- 1227 posts since 13 May, 2015
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- KVRAF
- 7540 posts since 7 Aug, 2003 from San Francisco Bay Area
That’s assuming machine learning is trained on one specific type of sound (e.g. French horn) and that it does a perfect job of replication. But what happens when you train it in a mixture of several instruments and yield odd morphing combinations, imperfectly recreated? That’s where the fun begins!Tj Shredder wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:39 pm Machine learning will unlikely produce new sounds, as it can only learn from known sounds. And the word traditional means all not most...; - )
Machine learning is interesting though, but on a different level...
To find new sounds needs real creativity.
But listening to most music, it seems recreating the already known is the trend... I would leave that to the machines, they can do it better, though it remains boring...
Incomplete list of my gear: 1/8" audio input jack.
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- KVRian
- 744 posts since 16 Jan, 2019 from deep inside
Obviously you've never spent much time playing with ganbreeder. I work mainly in photography and retouching... the images created by machine learning are unlike anything i've ever seen in decades of my profession. Applying the same process to sound will more than likely output similar results.
It's going to take a little while though, since resolution is still an issue with image synthesis.
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
You already can do new and unheard stuff with everything that is already been out. You just need to be creative, not the synth 
Good example wub wub wub dubstep sounds. They couldve been done in 80s or 90s already just there was no such creative mind back then.
Good example wub wub wub dubstep sounds. They couldve been done in 80s or 90s already just there was no such creative mind back then.
