Can't stop playing with XLN's XO...Is it just me?

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KVRAF
6349 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:09 am

Hopefully they will get a bunch of new users and continue investing time in updating the sequencer- Its very good as it is, but with a bit of love it could be great!
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KVRAF
7559 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 2:24 am

SLiC wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:11 am
Highly recommended at that price....I have found it a very useful and inspirational tool. :tu:
tuzemec wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:46 am
Couldn't resist on that price... :/
I'm still on the fence. What would sway me over would be more extensive synthesis / sound-shaping options, really. But I also understands it's not the goal of XO, so it's hard to fault them...
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KVRAF
3365 posts since 17 Dec, 2009

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:05 am

SLiC wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 1:11 am
antic604 wrote:
Tue Mar 10, 2020 11:57 pm
Full version is on sale at JRR (and other places, presumably).

$83.08 with code "group": https://www.jrrshop.com/xln-audio-xo
Highly recommended at that price....I have found it a very useful and inspirational tool. :tu:
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KVRAF
4137 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:08 am

i'm trying hard to not buy it, and keep telling myself that it'll be on similar discount on Black Friday, and we're facing a giant recession so i probably shouldn't be wasting money on plugins right now... where's that Atlas 1.5 update when you need it :D
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KVRAF
4194 posts since 26 Jun, 2004

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 3:04 pm

Lots of bang for buck at that price...
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KVRist
161 posts since 28 Jun, 2004

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 pm

Anyone making full songs with it? I'd love to hear your workflow.

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KVRAF
7559 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:38 pm

JiggSaw wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 pm
Anyone making full songs with it? I'd love to hear your workflow.
Like with any workflow, everyone's will be different - some will use XO to play full internal sequences, some will send MIDI notes to it to trigger the selected samples, others will export the MIDI, or samples, or full even audio stem(s) to their DAW.

I guess the beauty is XO caters to all of those workflows.
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KVRAF
6349 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:43 pm

JiggSaw wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 pm
Anyone making full songs with it? I'd love to hear your workflow.
I’m not (but you could), personally I export loops and stems for use in other programs (for me mainly in Bitwig).
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KVRAF
3211 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:24 am

XO is amazing and I am hoping XLN Audio continues to evolve it and make it even better.
Never imagined we would get to play with toys in adulthood. :)

KVRist
161 posts since 28 Jun, 2004

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:51 am

antic604 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:38 pm
JiggSaw wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 pm
Anyone making full songs with it? I'd love to hear your workflow.
Like with any workflow, everyone's will be different - some will use XO to play full internal sequences, some will send MIDI notes to it to trigger the selected samples, others will export the MIDI, or samples, or full even audio stem(s) to their DAW.

I guess the beauty is XO caters to all of those workflows.
I mean yeah.. That's literally why I asked lol. There's so many ways to use it. So I wanted to see the workflow of someone using it to make a full song. Especially if they're using the internal sequencer since the 2 bar thing is very limiting. So seeing how people are working around those limitations might spark some ideas.

KVRAF
6349 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:59 am

JiggSaw wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:51 am
antic604 wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 11:38 pm
JiggSaw wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 pm
Anyone making full songs with it? I'd love to hear your workflow.
Like with any workflow, everyone's will be different - some will use XO to play full internal sequences, some will send MIDI notes to it to trigger the selected samples, others will export the MIDI, or samples, or full even audio stem(s) to their DAW.

I guess the beauty is XO caters to all of those workflows.
I mean yeah.. That's literally why I asked lol. There's so many ways to use it. So I wanted to see the workflow of someone using it to make a full song. Especially if they're using the internal sequencer since the 2 bar thing is very limiting. So seeing how people are working around those limitations might spark some ideas.
You can get a surprising amount of variation with the 2 bar AB thing, but I simply get something I like- save it as a loop (intro for example) then re-tweak and save (say calling it 'Verse Loop') etc- sure you get the jist! - 4-5 of these- bang them in a folder- load 'em in Bitwig - more tweaking of the audio loops as per normal for further variance....its like a super fast original drum loop library maker!
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KVRAF
7559 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:02 am

JiggSaw wrote:
Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:51 am
Especially if they're using the internal sequencer since the 2 bar thing is very limiting. So seeing how people are working around those limitations might spark some ideas.
I think internal sequencer is only good to come up with some pattern and then you'd export it to MIDI, edit the MIDI clips as your song goes and trigger the sounds that way.
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KVRist
105 posts since 16 Nov, 2016

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 8:58 am

JiggSaw wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 6:18 pm
Anyone making full songs with it? I'd love to hear your workflow.
The Export window in XO can stay open and freely dragged around within XO while you edit your sequence or using the Beat Combiner. This is a pretty useful feature when you want to build (or dice roll) some quick variations and drag it to the DAW. Also solo's and mute's are instantly reflected in the Beat as MIDI.

KVRist
161 posts since 28 Jun, 2004

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 11:34 am

Thanks for the ideas everyone. I'm going to try some of them.

KVRAF
4194 posts since 26 Jun, 2004

Post Thu Mar 12, 2020 5:36 pm

I am still using my DAW sequencer and sending midi into XO, usually.
For most of my purposes its the sweet spot for me, because I can still use all my DAWs sequencing functions, and still use all of XOs sample wrangling and playback functions.
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