The Most Overrated and Underrated VST/AU (Effects And Instruments)

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BONES
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10409 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:17 pm

I find Soundspot very hit and miss. There are a couple I find indispensible, particularly Halcyon, but others are, as RG says, "laughable". Oracle, their reverb, is another good one and I am still finding so many uses for Union that it's getting beyond funny. It has become my most used synth plugin by a country mile of late.
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e@rs
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4652 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:44 am

chk071 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 3:06 pm
I never felt the need to update Diversion to the PA version,...
Could it be because there's no Diversion PA version in the first place? :wink:

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KVRAF
25599 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:47 am

Hm, I thought there was one actually. Maybe I confuse it with Thorn.
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e@rs
KVRAF
4652 posts since 15 Dec, 2011 from Bucharest, Romania

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:50 am

Most definitely.

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Michael L
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3305 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:30 am

BONES wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:17 pm
Oracle, their reverb, is another good one
:-o It's awful. Overpriced even for $7 now.
But I'm sure there is somewhere you can insert it :tu:
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HotCoffee
KVRer
27 posts since 6 Sep, 2011 from Sweden

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:05 am

Overrated: Every plugin I'm too lazy to fully explore and learn. :grin:
Underrated: Cubase stock plugins. This probably applies to most DAW:s out there.

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BONES
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10409 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:21 pm

Michael L wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 3:30 am
BONES wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 9:17 pm
Oracle, their reverb, is another good one
:-o It's awful. Overpriced even for $7 now.
But I'm sure there is somewhere you can insert it :tu:
Awful why? I like the extra effects on it you can use without having to add extra plugins. It makes it quite handy as a channel insert - quick and easy. Or maybe I just really like Soundspot's Saturation algorithm because both Oracle and Halcyon use it and Union probably does, too.
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KVRist
282 posts since 21 May, 2018

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:04 pm

Under rated:

Bitwig the GRID is the best synth for building instruments and learning. Everyone needs to give it a serious try.

Biotek 2 with a dedicated X/Y is just awesome and unique AND hard to program properly

Falcon 2 is the best do anything synth out there and I love it more then Synthmaster 2 now.

Over rated; Arturia Emulations - They are not very inspiring and some of the blandest emulations

Should have more love;
ACE and Hive 2 - They are just over the top fun
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Michael L
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3305 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit

Post Mon Aug 10, 2020 8:09 pm

BONES wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 7:21 pm
Awful why? I like the extra effects on it you can use without having to add extra plugins
I never thought about that: terrible as a reverb, but not as a saturation/ distortion effect. Thanks.
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deggy
KVRian
1140 posts since 6 Oct, 2004 from berlin

Post Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:52 pm

Overrated: waves SSL bundle
Underrated: Softube Summit Audio grand channel

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KVRian
769 posts since 11 Jun, 2019

Post Wed Sep 02, 2020 4:38 am

Many "Synthesis Monsters" like Zebra are regarded as overrated. Why?

I suppose that the Reason is mainly the Fact that they offer all Options/Tools, but don't offer good "Content" (Waveforms, Samples, ...). Just look at the MSF....

Starting with Wave-Design is usually no Fun. I'd vote for EG RP Blue at the Moment. Or NI Razor. You can't do so much yourself there, but that usually rather means that you don't have to and get some Pro-Help.

I also feel that Zeb is overrated because its a purely OSC focussed Tool without "Soul", sounds rough not brilliant and never really soft but rather strangely "empty". Time Sucker as many many others which support the Patch Industry at the End of the Day - but yes - sometimes Weapon of Choice for sure

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aMUSEd
KVRAF
31756 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:57 pm

Been having a lot of fun with Rob Papen Go2 lately - seems very underrated, possibly because it seems at face value to be a simple one osc synth - however it's really great for moving evolving sounds and it's just so playable

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KVRian
769 posts since 11 Jun, 2019

Post Fri Sep 11, 2020 2:27 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Fri Sep 11, 2020 1:57 pm
Been having a lot of fun with Rob Papen Go2 lately - seems very underrated, possibly because it seems at face value to be a simple one osc synth - however it's really great for moving evolving sounds and it's just so playable
Same here with some of the others. Really quick Results and no fiddling around like with e. g. Zebra anymore. Marvelous FM in Blue - so much easier, resp. better sounding to me. They have a completely different Sound Level and Masses of great usable! Presets. Ensemble on and the Space just opens. Three Thumbs up. eXplore!

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KVRAF
1602 posts since 30 Dec, 2014

Post Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:24 pm

I can't quantify what is and isn't overhyped, I just know what I like and don't like that encompasses more than the sound of the synth itself.

In regard to one particular synth, I think I recorded this live with Rob Papens Predator RE, in Reason 7 many moons ago.

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Halonmusic
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4415 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway

Post Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:45 pm

sonic Lion Nitrox is very underrated. Great synth and very versatile. Reminds me a bit of zeta+ and audjoo helix. And its free!
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