Massive X 1.3 update!

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KVRist
477 posts since 18 Feb, 2004

Post Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:13 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:05 pm
It's hard to find instances when Bones agrees with something :P
ain't that the truth. :clap:

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KVRAF
18474 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:12 pm

ScrLk wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:58 am
1.4 is still going to release much earlier than Zebra 3!
Yeah, but Zebra 3 will for sure have support for PolyAT and MPE and Breath Controller and Expression Pedal, a great Browser, MSEG's (per voice), support for mouse wheel and arrow keys, LFO Phase, direct automation of parameters, midi learn, user import of wavetables and user drawn waveforms.

MX currently has none of that and 1.4 will be lucky to add 1-2 of those things.

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KVRAF
18474 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Mon Jan 18, 2021 1:15 pm

Jim Rosebrook wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 9:23 am
Massive X update will need to address the use of AVX for M1 compatibility....
One of the things I do like about Massive X is the CPU use is quite good on my computer. They did a good job with the AVX

KVRian
533 posts since 20 Apr, 2005

Post Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:11 pm

EvilDragon wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:59 pm
rezoneight wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:54 pm
You can do any wavetable sound with 2 basic oscillators and cross-mod....
I'd beg to differ. :)
I still can't understand why Massive X lost an oscillator and a filter from the original version. Such a shame!

KVRAF
1667 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA

Post Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:31 pm

Honestly what bugs me most about the design of both Massive and Massive X is the lack of deeper Panning control. On both, you can only pan the whole Amplifier, which means all Oscs together.

So many other synths (read: Serum, and more...) are designed such that it's dead-simple to Pan Osc A to the left, Osc B to the right... or any other spacing you'd desire. Massive and MX ? Not possible! I find that really, really obnoxious.
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KVRAF
2728 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:29 am

They definitely got their hands full bringing the Komplete suite to Apple Silicon. They're also converting their Reaktor based synths (Monark, TRk-01 etc etc) to VST3. That is also going to take time. I can see MX being on the back-burner for a while.
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KVRAF
2728 posts since 2 Oct, 2004

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:33 am

mholloway wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:31 pm
Honestly what bugs me most about the design of both Massive and Massive X is the lack of deeper Panning control. On both, you can only pan the whole Amplifier, which means all Oscs together.

So many other synths (read: Serum, and more...) are designed such that it's dead-simple to Pan Osc A to the left, Osc B to the right... or any other spacing you'd desire. Massive and MX ? Not possible! I find that really, really obnoxious.
I'm not on my PC. But have you tried routing the Osc A and Osc B to different effects? Then modulating the pans on the effects.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2

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KVRian
1053 posts since 11 Apr, 2008

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:37 am

mholloway wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:31 pm
Honestly what bugs me most about the design of both Massive and Massive X is the lack of deeper Panning control. On both, you can only pan the whole Amplifier, which means all Oscs together.

So many other synths (read: Serum, and more...) are designed such that it's dead-simple to Pan Osc A to the left, Osc B to the right... or any other spacing you'd desire. Massive and MX ? Not possible! I find that really, really obnoxious.
Yep. It's incredibly useful and ultra-simple-to-implement feature that is not only useful for big lead/pad sounds but very very useful for non-music sound design.
I need it more than any other feature.
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KVRAF
21407 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:40 am

_leras wrote:
Mon Jan 18, 2021 5:11 pm
I still can't understand why Massive X lost an oscillator and a filter from the original version. Such a shame!
Different goals in product design phase.
v1o wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:29 am
They're also converting their Reaktor based synths (Monark, TRk-01 etc etc) to VST3.
Only Super 8 got converted, this is not a guarantee that all the others will get the same treatment. Maybe, maybe not, it's anyone's guess.

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KVRAF
18474 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:00 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:40 am
v1o wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 1:29 am
They're also converting their Reaktor based synths (Monark, TRk-01 etc etc) to VST3.
Only Super 8 got converted, this is not a guarantee that all the others will get the same treatment. Maybe, maybe not, it's anyone's guess.
I'd like Prism as a VST... Form too...

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KVRAF
21407 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:01 am

Hey, me too. :D And Razor and Monark...

KVRist
117 posts since 31 Oct, 2020

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:25 am

I would like all Reaktor effects in AU/VST/AAX.

Pls gimme spacemaster 2 and all the old goodies + the new Reaktor blocks all of em thanks!! Once at it convert all the Guitar Rig elements too separately all the effects and modulators

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KVRAF
21407 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:30 am

That's a bit unrealistic :)

KVRist
418 posts since 11 Nov, 2010 from ny

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:58 am

NI seems a bit backed up, wishful thinking their plugins will separate from Reaktor

KVRist
117 posts since 31 Oct, 2020

Post Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:17 am

EvilDragon wrote:
Tue Jan 19, 2021 7:30 am
That's a bit unrealistic :)
Yeah.. I know that very well haha. Still.. one can only dream.

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