Steinberg Backbone - Drum Re-synthesizer

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KVRist
434 posts since 20 Aug, 2010

Post Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:30 am

Is anyone using this on windows 10? I still can't get the layer presets to load. It's says I don't have a license for them. Normal presets (which load the layer presets) work fine.

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KVRAF
15695 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:02 am

Re-synthesizing a sitar accent in Steinberg Backbone, some descriptions are embedded in the video.

https://youtu.be/zi3OtdfCeIY

KVRist
108 posts since 8 Jul, 2017

Post Tue May 04, 2021 10:09 am

almost bought it until I found out that you can't make drum kits (like playing full drum kit) and play them live! How the hell is it possible in drum machine? Only one shots... ((( Its neither synth nor drum machine!
Hope they will update it soon

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KVRAF
15695 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Tue May 04, 2021 11:23 am

tim.benetonn wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 10:09 am
almost bought it until I found out that you can't make drum kits (like playing full drum kit) and play them live! How the hell is it possible in drum machine? Only one shots... ((( Its neither synth nor drum machine!
Hope they will update it soon
They have Groove Agent and HALion for drumkits, Backbone is a very capable one shot-machine.

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KVRAF
4272 posts since 12 Jan, 2018

Post Tue May 04, 2021 8:46 pm

focusrite wrote:
Sun Dec 20, 2020 3:30 am
Is anyone using this on windows 10? I still can't get the layer presets to load. It's says I don't have a license for them. Normal presets (which load the layer presets) work fine.
Strange as it may sound, it might be a problem with your e-licenser software. Update it to the latest version. Assuming you are using the latest version of the plugin.

If that still does not help, you might need to delete the old soft e-licenser file (somewhere in ProgramData/Syncrosoft) and then need to get new activation codes. There is an FAQ on how to do that, so please make sure you understand that before deleting the soft e-licenser file.

Saying this based on my experience with Padshop 2 and Retrologue 2. I am also on Windows 10. I am using the soft e-licenser, no dongle.

All this might not be needed, but just in case nothing is helping, you can try these things. :)

KVRist
42 posts since 21 Apr, 2004

Post Tue May 04, 2021 10:57 pm

I might buy this, currently on sale 🤔

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GRRRRRRR!
12577 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Post Tue May 04, 2021 11:59 pm

Yeah, but it is still quite expensive.
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Banned
2290 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Wed May 05, 2021 4:54 am

Sampleconstruct wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:23 am
tim.benetonn wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 10:09 am
almost bought it until I found out that you can't make drum kits (like playing full drum kit) and play them live! How the hell is it possible in drum machine? Only one shots... ((( Its neither synth nor drum machine!
Hope they will update it soon
They have Groove Agent and HALion for drumkits, Backbone is a very capable one shot-machine.
I love my Groove Agent!! Best discovery since sliced bread .. (coming from a Maschine guy.)

Backbone looks like a clone of a UVI type product. I guess the market is 808 beat makers.
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KVRian
543 posts since 3 Jul, 2016

Post Wed May 05, 2021 5:11 am

BONES wrote:
Tue May 04, 2021 11:59 pm
Yeah, but it is still quite expensive.
quite right - it looks like they're testing the sales with the 30% first , a while ago Iconica was 50% off.
I dare to say - by the end of 2021 many vst will be 50% off - never gets any better then that.
I would not be surprised if Absolute 5 included some kind of light versions of the big releases
Backbone ( One,LE or stg...). In the end it's all about sales ( low nr of vst sales - better % Sale - sooner). Being patient is a virtue..

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2290 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada

Post Wed May 05, 2021 6:06 am

Iconica sound kind of cool.
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KVRAF
2037 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Fri Aug 27, 2021 5:26 pm

Do i right understand that here is unable to modulate Position knob (in Resynth module) thru some internal lfo\envelope ? (Nor Speed fader?)

KVRAF
1645 posts since 25 Feb, 2005

Post Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:11 am

50 % sale now
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KVRAF
2037 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:17 am

I should say, pretty difficult choice. Been dig trial last night. Will not criticize its uncertain practical application (since this has already been done before me). But if really perceive him as a kind of one-shot designer, then there really is not enough modulations capability (what I asked about above) to give benefit to such "instant" approach (and justify the price at the same time).
(In my opinion)

Added: >in theory< I agree with the idea of introducing it into the GA engine, it would make much more sense (again, at least in the his current form). Although on the other hand, such a multiplication of this system within one plugin might create a cpu\ram load problem.
Summarizing - for implantation it is too heavy. For separately - pretty limited featurewise.

In general i don't know lol. Even at discount price (which need say, not a cheap too. I think, would be sense to give an additional discount for GA or Halion\Padshop users, especially since this in some sense repeats this engine. ).

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KVRAF
15695 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there

Post Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:51 am

I think the re-synthesis engine in Backbone sounds pretty fantastic, it's an advanced version of the spectral oscillator used in Padshop 2.

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KVRAF
2037 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Post Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:26 pm

Ofcourse Resynth section is most interesting part in it. But, how it possible to neglect of modulation of playback position considering most delicious ability of spectral engine, i don't know.
This one little thing would add more variability than almost everything already there. At the same time, being in perfect harmony with the plugin aesthetic. Which, as it were, implies creation "within", without outside \ additional processing. Otherwise (when resorting to automation as well), imo the value of such an idea is near to depreciates considering those plugins that are already available without Backbone.

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