SonicLab x HAINBACH Test Equipment Instrument!

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KVRist
397 posts since 6 May, 2020

Post Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:36 pm

It's definitely an interesting atmospheric tool. Not sure if I would find uses for more musical proposes thought.

But for ambience.. 10/10
Take care :wink:

KVRAF
1796 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Post Mon Jun 15, 2020 9:50 pm

re people not seeing it as a traditional vst instrument, that is true. But once I used Gatekeeper to apply interesting gated rhythms onto the Fundamental output, combined with quantising the pitch using the scaling function, Fundamental became nicely musical and could easily generate rhythms and melodies. But it isnt something for playing notes from a midi keyboard or file

KVRAF
1796 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 1:50 pm

ended up buying this - is quite an inspiring sound source.

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KVRAF
32942 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:07 pm

I guess the closest thing to it is this (BERNA 2)

https://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/softwares/

KVRAF
1796 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 3:05 pm

aMUSEd wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:07 pm
I guess the closest thing to it is this (BERNA 2)

https://www.giorgiosancristoforo.net/softwares/
great link ! an interesting looking device although the patchbay would drive me crazy :) Real shame his other devices are not available on windows - they all look worthwhile - and very cheap

KVRAF
3208 posts since 25 Mar, 2016 from Seattle

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:12 pm

foosnark wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:23 pm
It's not meant to be played with MIDI (other than specialized MPE control), but you can use MIDI Note On to assign pitches to individual oscillators when you select them in the GUI.

It is very musical if you are open minded and experimental. 8)
Thanks for the reply. It would make such a lush electric piano from what I’ve heard.

The developer says that it is playable on a keyboard, so I’m a little confused now... Think I’ll wait and see what develops.

KVRAF
1796 posts since 4 Jul, 2019

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:37 pm

simmo75 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:12 pm
foosnark wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:23 pm
It's not meant to be played with MIDI (other than specialized MPE control), but you can use MIDI Note On to assign pitches to individual oscillators when you select them in the GUI.

It is very musical if you are open minded and experimental. 8)
Thanks for the reply. It would make such a lush electric piano from what I’ve heard.

The developer says that it is playable on a keyboard, so I’m a little confused now... Think I’ll wait and see what develops.
I think all you can with midi is set the oscillator's base frequency and I am not sure if that can be automated at all. I dont think this can be thought of as a synth in the usual way, but more as a sound source. I have not tried playing it through Pitchmap yet - that might be quite amazing...or not :)

EDIT - tried pitchmap with fundamental and it is amazing

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Banned
1796 posts since 8 Sep, 2019 from Calenberg

Post Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:36 pm

fairlyclose wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 5:37 pm
simmo75 wrote:
Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:12 pm
foosnark wrote:
Mon Jun 15, 2020 12:23 pm
It's not meant to be played with MIDI (other than specialized MPE control), but you can use MIDI Note On to assign pitches to individual oscillators when you select them in the GUI.

It is very musical if you are open minded and experimental. 8)
Thanks for the reply. It would make such a lush electric piano from what I’ve heard.

The developer says that it is playable on a keyboard, so I’m a little confused now... Think I’ll wait and see what develops.
I think all you can with midi is set the oscillator's base frequency and I am not sure if that can be automated at all. I dont think this can be thought of as a synth in the usual way, but more as a sound source. I have not tried playing it through Pitchmap yet - that might be quite amazing...or not :)

EDIT - tried pitchmap with fundamental and it is amazing
Now it has become VERY interesting for me!

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KVRer
13 posts since 3 Jul, 2016

Post Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:07 am

It looks and sounds awesome. But iLok is a no-go.

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KVRAF
2193 posts since 23 May, 2005 from North Cornwall

Post Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:18 am

A fascinating sound generator. Didn't take me more than a few hours to press the button. I am continually torn between using it as I guess it is really intended, standalone, and filtering it. Both work well. There are so many sound and modulation possibilities available within it. I hope they get sufficient sales to embark on the next project, the HP pulse generator.

KVRist
125 posts since 5 Jul, 2019

Post Fri Jun 19, 2020 10:58 am

Ordered a Launch Control XL to try to map things out to make it more tactile.

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KVRAF
2160 posts since 3 Mar, 2010

Post Fri Jun 19, 2020 5:19 pm

Is real time pitch shifting the only way to play this melodically? Can you use some sort of keytracked filter? Pitchmap looks interesting, but crazy expensive.

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KVRAF
5934 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:22 am

The main thing is, this is really not meant to be a keyboard instrument. Using test equipment for electronic music predates voltage-controlled synthesizers. So you have to think outside the box. But it's also a VST plugin where you can automate and assign controls...

Since this includes 8 oscillators, you could control them by mapping knobs or faders to their levels. That's similar to how I record my drone ambient stuff with hardware modular.

Theoretically, with Bitwig's Keytrack and either Math or Polynom modulators, there should be a way to map MIDI notes to frequency. The frequency parameter is linear, but you want exponential for normal tuning. In practice, I gave up after several minutes of trying.

You could sample it. :D

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KVRAF
2193 posts since 23 May, 2005 from North Cornwall

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 8:38 am

I have been hosting it in Voltage Modular, automating it and (sometimes) filtering it with the Vult filters. Sounds incredible.

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KVRAF
2160 posts since 3 Mar, 2010

Post Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:45 am

I had thought of sampling or resynthesizing it (using Alchemy or Harmor) as well. I understand the basic concept of using old test equipment to generate tones and understand that the resulting frequencies will be somewhat random, but when I manage to generate a tone that is interesting, I then want to be able to play that tone up and down the keyboard using my chosen notes.

@lnikj - can you please elaborate on how you are filtering this with the Vult filters?

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